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Post by The Mask on Aug 31, 2010 20:12:56 GMT -5
Per "gig" -- which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht. The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time - she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map - she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with certain, um, tastes. This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too, where this stuff is widely known about. Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000 for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series - they can actually make more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole 'nuther story.) In addition, many female "celebs" got started in prostitution and later became "stars." Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into prostitution, serviced the "right" client, and then their careers became bigger again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had more work as a call girl than anything else. Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people who were in her "little black book" and that's how that horrible woman was foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she's always been, what she's always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to $1million to show up at a "party" for the Kind of Bahrain's son or whatever - she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time. How about your more 'wholesome' actors and actresses? Say for instance, Anne Hathaway? Or Melissa Joan Hart?
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 9:32:42 GMT -5
Per "gig" -- which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht. The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time - she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map - she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with certain, um, tastes. This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too, where this stuff is widely known about. Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000 for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series - they can actually make more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole 'nuther story.) In addition, many female "celebs" got started in prostitution and later became "stars." Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into prostitution, serviced the "right" client, and then their careers became bigger again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had more work as a call girl than anything else. Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people who were in her "little black book" and that's how that horrible woman was foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she's always been, what she's always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to $1million to show up at a "party" for the Kind of Bahrain's son or whatever - she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time. How about your more 'wholesome' actors and actresses? Say for instance, Anne Hathaway? Or Melissa Joan Hart? With some of these ladies it's helpful to look at the constellation of people they have "dated." How did Hathaway end up engaged to wealthy real estate developer Raffaello Follieri, for instance? Info on some of his connections here - from June 2008: "More trouble for Raffaello Follieri, the fiancé of “Devil Wears Prada” star Anne Hathaway; Attorney General Andrew Cuomo is investigating the Follieri Foundation, a charity headed by the 29-year-old Italian businessman. The Post has it that Cuomo’s office has subpoenaed financial documents belonging to the Manhattan-based foundation, which is involved with vaccinating children in developing countries, among other things. "Follieri last made headlines when he was arrested for bouncing a $215,000 company check issued on behalf of his real estate company. Those charges were dropped when he paid up last month, and earlier this year he also settled a lawsuit brought by billionaire Ron Burkle, who accused Follieri of "systematically misappropriating" at least $1.3 million from a joint business venture to finance his lavish lifestyle. "Hathaway’s spokesman tells the Post that the actress no longer serves on the foundation’s board, though she had traveled to Central America with Follieri last year for a charity-funded vaccination program. Cuomo’s office declined to elaborate on the investigation, but apparently it has something to do with the foundation’s failure to file tax-disclosure forms required of nonprofit groups." Source: gothamist.com/2008/06/09/anne_hathaway_b.phpSo with this "fiancee" you have a bunch of things going on. First off, when someone in the industry like Anne is suddenly engaged to a guy like that, it is almost always due to an arranged escort/prostitution "date." People think it's just because famous and wealthy people meet at parties, but it's not. Think of Cindy Crawford and Richard Gere and how they said they met at a party. No, she was a paid escort for the evening. At the higher echelons, these women (supermodels especially) are EXPECTED to keep powerful men company - it's part of the deal. Sometimes it works out nicely and the woman actually enjoys being with the guy. She ends up with a full-time "gig" as the real girlfriend or wife. That's how you often end up with actresses marrying their directors. Or it's more cold and calculated. He gets a bit of expensive, famous, beautiful arm candy - and she thinks she's going to get lots of work because she's married to the director. (Doesn't always work out that way, though. Many directors rarely use their actress wives in films.) Anyway, with Anne and Raffaello, you also have the constellation of Raffaello having done a business deal with infamous Ron Burkle, a billionaire friend of Bill Clinton, who is widely known to be a guy who likes procuring models and other "willing" women for Bill - as well as enjoying them himself. So these threads all interconnect. Also you have the connection through Raffaello to some "world charity/vaccination program" stuff, with Anne having sat on the board of the charity and travelled to third world countries doing "good works." These organizations are usually fronts for prostitution, sex trafficking rings, and drugs - but they love to have someone wholesome like Anne as the "face" of the organization. I'm not saying she KNEW about all that stuff, she may have genuinely believed things were kosher. Anne and Raffaello broke up, but apparently she had let him take naked photos and videos of her, and she was freaking out that these would be made public post-breakup: "Anne Hathaway is concerned that pictures she took without clothes on for her now jailed ex-boyfriend Raffaello Follieri, might make their way onto the Internet. Anne’s brother was seen going through Follieri’s storage space, but the FBI had already raided the space the day before. Items taken by the FBI included Anne’s diary, and those scandalous pictures. There’s also a rumor an intimate video may have been taken as well. We’ve see Anne without a top on in movies like Havoc, but we haven’t seen her doing the nasty on video yet. Since we don’t have the pics from the storage space yet, the pics below will give you a preview of what is to come." Source: www.hollywoodgrind.com/anne-hathaway-naughty-picture-scandal/Now, that's how the mainstream press always spins this stuff. She agreed to do some soft porn photos and video for the guy, with the understanding that it would only be circulated amongst a "connected" group of his friends. But after she broke up with him, all bets were off, and she knew that he might get nasty and circulate the material wider. This press release makes it sound like these were just innocent little photos and vids taken between a consenting couple. That's not how it usually works. The actresses agree to do porn in exchange for all the perks of being with the rich guy - but with the understanding that they lose rights to that material if they break up with the guy. I think Anne got "lucky" or perhaps made some other concessions/deals, because the release of this material didn't completely spoil her industry image as the nice girl. But it looks like some of it has leaked to the Net and is viewable online. There is a higher tier in the porn world of homemade stuff made by gorgeous actresses and models, whose boyfriends just "happen" to be directors, photographers, celebs, or connected people and get exclusive access to the sex tapes or photos these women do. I'm sure Raffaello passed Anne's stuff off to his friends like Ron Burkle, who is into that world up to his eyeballs, maybe even good ole Bill Clinton. It doesn't mean that it was ever going to be in wider release at the lower levels of porn distribution - this is the more exclusive stuff, the exclusive circles. I'm afraid that these are the same exclusive circles who probably have access to snuff films and sacrifices that are filmed, and that many of the same people who end up being replaced might also have their deaths or torture filmed and circulated. I can't say that with 100% firsthand knowledge, but I have known people who survived sex trafficking, and they say that snuff films are done when a sex slave/prostitute/call boy has gotten a bit haggard and worn around the edges, past his or her "sell by" date, and/or pissed off the wrong people. And there's a huge market in these exclusive, connected, and wealthy circles for that stuff. I think if we really want to know what happens to the people who get replaced, that such snuff films would unfortunately tell us more than we would ever want to know.
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 9:58:11 GMT -5
And about the actresses and celebs who are pregnant and then magically not pregnant - case in point, Bristol Palin. She has been pregnant four times. The first time in fall 2006 (there are photos of her wearing a green sweater dated fall 2006 in which she is noticeably pregnant, about four months pregnant, maybe five months). That baby "disappeared." Trig, which Sarah Palin claimed as hers. Tripp, which Bristol had with Levi Johnston - maybe. Although she slept around so much, and Levi has shown little interest in a decent custody arrangement, that parentage is questionable. And this winter she bought a condo away from her mom's place, moved in with a hockey player friend of Levi's named Ben Barber, got pregnant YET again....broke up with Ben, got back together with Levi for about five minutes (still pregnant with Ben's baby).......... And now she's suddenly filming Dancing with the Stars.....not pregnant anymore. SOME of these babies are most likely sacrifices. Sarah Palin will do anything and everything to remain in the limelight and sold her soul and her body a long time ago. She is systematically doing the same thing to all of her kids. Her "veteran" son, Track, is a known drug addict and was arrested for cutting brake lines on a bunch of school busses before he was shipped off to Iraq (with a cushy job of driving dignitaries around.) Now he's home and back on the drugs. Willow, Bristol's younger sister, vandalized a home and has also been arrested for fighting with another girl - all covered up. They're all being groomed to be part of the machine in one form or another, and it's the little ones who always suffer. (I include the kids on this list because their destinies were sh*t from the moment they were born. They never had much hope for a decent life.) You can read a lot more about the baby stuff at: palingates.blogspot.com and theimmoralminority.blogspot.comVanity Fair just today came out with an explosive article that starts to expose some of the really dark stuff about Sarah Palin - her facade, carefully preserved by Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch, is starting to crumble a little. But the sheeple still want her to restore the Republic to its God-lovin', rifle-totin', hating black people, ways, so I doubt she'll disappear from the scene for a long, long time.
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 10:18:58 GMT -5
About Melissa Joan Hart - she's been working in show business since the age of four, and having starred in Sabrina the Teenage Witch for all those years, she is no doubt highly skilled at moving esoteric energy - mind control and hypnotic energy - and influencing her young female fan base with whatever themes the producer/writers wanted to get across. A lot of that is probably unconscious on her part - she's just doing what she was trained to do.
Her husband Mark Wilkerson is a bit of a puzzle. Very little info available on him even though he has his band A Course of Nature which has had some minor hits. The two of them did name their first kid Mason Walter Wilkerson, which is interesting. Who uses Mason as a first name unless it has some significance - a nod to the Masons perhaps?
My sense of this couple is that they are very good workers for the system. They represent the "good guy/good girl" platform. They are being USED by the system but might not be insiders themselves. Melissa is busy being a good breeder, though - just had her second kid I think.
Keep in mind with the breeder women is that there are often children born between the pregnancies we hear about - that get "donated" or sacrificed. Kids who can move psychic energy as powerfully as Melissa no doubt can would be highly prized.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Melissa's own children, or at least one of them, don't get offered to the star machine when they are a little older. Tune in on them in about ten years!
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Post by artemis on Sept 1, 2010 11:42:40 GMT -5
WOW, Bristol Palin already pregnant 4 times? Thats indeed news to me. What a naughty girl! And none of them conceived with her own dad, as many said?
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Post by artemis on Sept 1, 2010 11:57:39 GMT -5
About Melissa Joan Hart - she's been working in show business since the age of four, and having starred in Sabrina the Teenage Witch for all those years, she is no doubt highly skilled at moving esoteric energy - mind control and hypnotic energy - and influencing her young female fan base with whatever themes the producer/writers wanted to get across. A lot of that is probably unconscious on her part - she's just doing what she was trained to do. Her husband Mark Wilkerson is a bit of a puzzle. Very little info available on him even though he has his band A Course of Nature which has had some minor hits. The two of them did name their first kid Mason Walter Wilkerson, which is interesting. Who uses Mason as a first name unless it has some significance - a nod to the Masons perhaps? My sense of this couple is that they are very good workers for the system. They represent the "good guy/good girl" platform. They are being USED by the system but might not be insiders themselves. Melissa is busy being a good breeder, though - just had her second kid I think. Keep in mind with the breeder women is that there are often children born between the pregnancies we hear about - that get "donated" or sacrificed. Kids who can move psychic energy as powerfully as Melissa no doubt can would be highly prized. I also wouldn't be surprised if Melissa's own children, or at least one of them, don't get offered to the star machine when they are a little older. Tune in on them in about ten years! Felicia, can u tell me more about the actors who played in FULL HOUSE, especially the girls?
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Post by nachtlicht on Sept 1, 2010 12:45:41 GMT -5
This woman who was the concierge there during the time MJ was staying there told me about how he would have groups of 10 - 15 Mexican boys, under the age of 15, shipped in by a mysterious limo driver who would show up at the back delivery entrance and bring the kids in for "play dates" with Michael. And MJ also always had Bubbles the chimp with him and some other staff/entourage. The boys would stay over for a night or two and then be shipped back out again. My friend and all the staff used to dealing with VIP's knew that they would be blacklisted from working in the hotel industry in New York if they let word get out about this. The rooms were always a mess afterwards, she told me. Semen stains all over the expensive couches. She showed me some of the specific couches that had had to be replaced several times. Nasty stuff. She didn't want to tell me anything more, but suffice it to say that the insiders in the VIP hotel/lodgings world see a lot of stuff involving child sex trafficking and sex slavery and these people being shipped in for certain stars. The same goes for women sex slaves, too, it all depends on the celebrity's tastes. Another hotel industry friend who worked in lots of LA hotels on the West coast talked about Tom Cruise (one of the Foms, no doubt) who keeps to this day a special luxury penthose apartment for parties with his male gay friends - and sometimes they ship in gay male escorts, some of them underaged. So there is a ton of this underground sex slave/prostitution/trafficking stuff that sits right along side the drug industry, both with parasitic hands in the world of stars, celebs, and models. Were the "originals" this goofed up? I don't know. The replacements do seem heavily indulged, though. They get all the drugs and sex they want, plus loads of spending money, fame, attention, etc. This is incredible stuff here. It hurts me, because it´s about lifeforms, that get abused. This part hurts me, when I read this information. But also I want to learn more about the things that these people do behind closed doors. I´m no expert like most users here on this awesome board, so I can´t say a lot about all this. I just study all this because of Josefine and because I feel that technology for creating clones exists. I would still like to know following things: Why all this darkness? Why all people who are stars are so full of darkness and WRONG sexuality? Is it a possession? Are they possessed by reptilians of 4th denity? But when they are clones and synthetical, is this still possible? And where is their soul? I really would like to know in detail how a synthetic clone works. Is he able to think? Is he able to study a philosphical book from Friedrich Nietzsche? I heard somewhere that clones don´t know they are synthetic and clones. They don´t know anything about their situation. They just live in a very little awareness and without any morality, not because they love to be evil and dark, but because trough the cloning process all the higher gates between body and mind get lost till they don´t exist anymore. So these lifeforms just are a body, without a connection between mind (soul) and body. They just are biological. Complete. Like dolls. It could be, I´m not sure, that synthetics get produced so some people in extremly high positions can have sex with every possible girls, woman, boy and guy that exists. As a example, Mr. X could say "I would like to have Heidi Klum in my sleeping room", so he invites Heidi Klum, isolates somehow her DNA, maybe she even likes this idea because she doesn´t know his real idea behind it, so Heidi Klum goes again home. Mr. X goes with the DNA from Heidi Klum to a labor and they start making a clone of Heidi Klum, not sure how long it takes and how they do it, but it could be that they are able to transform a body from a different person so it makes a mutation and shifts from one dna to another dna, so a Julia Roberts would turn trough technology into a Heidi Klum. They do so much, and all these sexual wrong things.. when they are really that extremly pedophile... and they have these technologys for cloning.. and building humans complete without cloning processes... than they can create their own humans... children... boys and girls... just to have sex with them.. and now imagine that they create babys... its hard to study all this information on this board... because its really, really hard in a emotional sense, somehow...
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Post by sabrina on Sept 1, 2010 13:54:01 GMT -5
About Melissa Joan Hart - she's been working in show business since the age of four, and having starred in Sabrina the Teenage Witch for all those years, she is no doubt highly skilled at moving esoteric energy - mind control and hypnotic energy - and influencing her young female fan base with whatever themes the producer/writers wanted to get across. A lot of that is probably unconscious on her part - she's just doing what she was trained to do. Her husband Mark Wilkerson is a bit of a puzzle. Very little info available on him even though he has his band A Course of Nature which has had some minor hits. The two of them did name their first kid Mason Walter Wilkerson, which is interesting. Who uses Mason as a first name unless it has some significance - a nod to the Masons perhaps? My sense of this couple is that they are very good workers for the system. They represent the "good guy/good girl" platform. They are being USED by the system but might not be insiders themselves. Melissa is busy being a good breeder, though - just had her second kid I think. Keep in mind with the breeder women is that there are often children born between the pregnancies we hear about - that get "donated" or sacrificed. Kids who can move psychic energy as powerfully as Melissa no doubt can would be highly prized. I also wouldn't be surprised if Melissa's own children, or at least one of them, don't get offered to the star machine when they are a little older. Tune in on them in about ten years! Kourtney Kardashian's son also named Mason
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 13:58:54 GMT -5
As expected since I joined here, I've been getting a certain amount of unpleasant - pushback - for posting. That's why I've sort of been posting in a burst. I'm going to probably have to go dark for a while after my flurry of posting, but I'm sure you will all understand why. I'm not even in the industry anymore, but the psychic attack and synchronistic real time "warnings" (close car accidents being one) have been kicking up again. This always happens when I talk about real things. Some of you probably know me from past posts on esoteric type forums and alternative journalism/conspiracy forums, where often an entire group of gangstalking behavior starts kicking up when I piss off the wrong people. So much fun! Not. So I will probably post some more today and might not be around here after that. Just wanted to let you know. Speaking as a former performer, I always had a very pure and spiritual component, a very genuine intention to spread love and light and positive emotion, through my work as an actress/singer/musician/comedienne/writer. Very early on I ran into the dark arts. There is literally a much more pervasive darker form of "art" that is ruled by the Illuminati/reptilian/negative ET's/negative humans/military industrial lodge complex (they're all pretty much the same group, from what I've seen.) I did tons of Julie Andrews, upbeat, positive ingenue type of work, largely comedic, some of it kids' theater, a lot of it musicals, most of it live stage work. It was only when I started auditioning for, say, David Mamet plays, in which the women are always hardened, and often whores, that I started to see the "Bizarro" universe that co-exists in the arts next to the more innocent, love and light, having fun, making friends, trying to change the world crowd. (Yes, I was a neo-hippie type in the 80's!) Whenever I auditioned for "darker" roles, I was always creeped out by the metaphysical components. Lot of negative energies always attached to the directors, casting people, the actors and actresses who usually got the leads, etc. A theater in which that stuff is happening feels completely different than, for example, a nice little dinner theater out in the country where I portrayed a character in Camelot. The dark stuff definitely involves negative entities - often entities and energies that the performers WELCOME INTO THEIR BODIES in a form of willful possession. Remember Oprah Winfrey's movie Beloved which she did a while back? In interviews she talked about allowing herself to be literally possessed by a dark, unhappy spirit of a slave - so she could better play the role. This is what actors and actresses are encouraged to do - to become entirely disassociative and to allow something "other" to come in. Madonna talked about being possessed by the spirit of Eva Peron when she filmed the famous balcony "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" scene for the film version of Evita. Ironically, she gave one of her best performances in that movie - because of her ability/willingness to be possessed. (And Eva Person was a piece of work - former whore, full-time fascist, exploited by the military industrial lodge complex she married into in the form of Juan Peron. She was also given "CIA cancer" which killed her off prematurely.) Anyway, there seems to be the good Jedis and the dark Sith lords in the arts, and unfortunately, the darker arts are being strongly celebrated these days. Actresses like Anna Paquin, who didn't have much of a career after her childhood nomination for best supporting actress in The Piano, has had to turn to the dark side of art to get recognition again in her vampire TV series, True Blood. There can be a lifelong process of trying to get a talented artist to turn to the dark forces. After that happens, a lot of subsidiary dark stuff happens - involvement in arranged "dates" with powerful men or women in the industry; feeding the star tons of drugs to get them to disassociate and go along with the abuse that starts to happen to them; and then involvement in actual dark rituals, sacrifices, but more commonly, sex rites (at least in the beginning. Think Eyes Wide Shut/orgies) Sometimes stars protest and try to get out. This can work, to some degree. Jeri Ryan of Star Trek: Voyager fame was married to the politician Jack Ryan. Remember that story? "On June 22, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider agreed to release the custody files. The decision generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request and because it generally reversed the early decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. It was revealed that six years previously, Jeri had accused Jack Ryan of asking her to perform sexual acts with him in public, and in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[13] Jack Ryan denied these allegations. Although Jeri Ryan refused to comment on the matter during the campaign, the document disclosure led Jack Ryan to withdraw his candidacy, clearing the way for Barack Obama to win the seat." Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_RyanI'm not sure how Jeri survived the public exposure of these facts, because usually, you get silenced if you talk about this stuff. Was she replaced? Haven't had time to look into it. Anyway, suffice it to say that there is a lot of gatekeeping going on in the world of the arts, and for whatever reasons, passing through those gates usually involves a lot of terrible relinquishment of one's free will, sexual well-being, spiritual sovereignty, and worse. The negative gatekeepers need a certain amount of true artists, lightworker types who are more fueled by love and innocence, and sometimes such types are targetted to be moved to a higher level of the playing field while AT THE SAME TIME keeping them surrounded by relatively nice "handlers" who don't corrupt them.....at least, not yet. But it seems that everyone in that industry has to make the choice between corruption or getting out of the industry at some point. Drugs and alcohol and spiritual possession make it easier to say, "Screw it, I'll do anything to get a job." But a lot of people who try to make it okay within themselves end up the victims of replacement later on, because at some point, they usually do protest or get what's called "a big mouth" and give that one revealing interview or comment to the media that can get them in real trouble.
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 14:07:47 GMT -5
The Bristol Palin stuff is really interesting because it's all pretty much poorly hidden in plain sight. There are a bunch of bloggers who were silenced when they started really hammering the evidence about Sarah Palin covering for Bristol's pregnancy with Trig. A few survived, most notably theimmoralminority.blogspot.com and palingates.blogspot.com. Gryphen of Immoral Minority actually has boots on the ground and lives in the same town as the Palins and has been dutifully chronically the Wasilla Mafia that silences people who mention ANYTHING negative about the Palins. Her people called up the school where he worked and reported him as a child molester to get him fired. Not to mention publicizing his name, license plate number, and worse. There are so many brave citizen journalists who are trying to do the real work of exposing the powers that be, and since Palin is supported by Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch, things have gotten even bloodier around her in recent months. One nurse who helped care for Bristol Palin's child, Trig, after he was born prematurely with what was most likely Fetal Alcohol Syndrome had her house set on fire, her dogs drugged, and she and her dogs died. Horrible stuff. About the Olsen Twins from Full House - I don't have any firsthand knowledge of them, all I know is the twins ALWAYS creeped me the f**k out! Like they were possessed as very, very little girls maybe. Then when the one Olsen twin just happened to own the apartment where Heath LEdger overdosed, and the massage therapist who found the body (hint: she wasn't a massage therapist but a hired sex worker) called the Olsen girl first instead of 911, that just seemed to be par for the course with them. Remember the satanic blood sacrifice type feeling of Heath Ledger's death, coming just as Batman was coming out, and how the whole morbid situation ended up creating huge box office receipts - not to mention a posthumous Oscar nomination for poor Heath? Think that wasn't all manipulated every step of the way? It's all about looking at the connections that these people plug into. You'll find a lot of nasty and juicy stuff that way.
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 14:20:26 GMT -5
I'm just going to throw this out there about Rod Stewart and maybe you guys and gals can look into it more at some point if you want to.
Sometime between 1967-1989 I encountered Rod Stewart (or perhaps Fod) on the streets of Atlanta. It was right in front of Tower Records downtown, not too far from where Rod was performing for a couple of nights at the Fox theater. He was wearing an almost cliched rocker's jumpsuit, a one piece brightly colored, unwashed and dirty, outfit, and he looked slovenly and unkempt. The thing that struck me was that he had the most horrific skin you ever saw - acne covering every half inch of his face. Now, that sometimes happens when stars have a bad allergy to stage makeup and there's not a lot you can do about it. But he also looked like he had deeply pock-marked skin from lifelong acne. His hair was stringy, bleached blonde, and yucky looking.
I was walking with my friend at the time heading into the store, and Rod/Fod perked up when he saw me. He chatted me up for a moment, and he even offered an invitation to a party he was hosting later that night after he performed, but the whole thing took place in this surreal ten minutes or so during which I was mostly going, "Is that really Rod Stewart? Something is really off here." I gently said I was busy, thanked him, and headed into the store. He had already left the store with a bag of purchases so he continued out to his bus or his taxi or his limo or whatever, I didn't wait to see.
Later that week I heard anecdotes from some of my performer friends who lived downtown that there had been lots of Rod Stewart sightings during the time he was in town. Just like I had seen, he didn't travel with any security, didn't have a girlfriend or wife on hand, and kept inviting people to a big party at the Marriott Marquis I believe - I think he was staying there.
I didn't know anybody who actually WENT to his party, though.
Thing is, later on (and there wasn't any Internet to speak of back then, so I couldn't look him up online) I looked at some friends' record covers, Rolling Stone mags, and so forth and the guy featured on those didn't look anything like the guy I saw. The guy I saw was maybe 5'9 or 5'10 and his accent wasn't particularly noticeable, he sounded more American than Brit.
The freedom with which the guy was wandering around town seemed odd. Admittedly Atlanta is a second tier type of city, hardly a New York or LA, but he was wandering around on his own without ANY entourage at all. And he didn't seem drugged up or drunk, in fact he seemed kind of nice and polite and friendly. (He still could have been high, though, but it didn't seem like he was obviously so.)
So anyway - I have always wondered what the hell that was. Did I see a replacement?
In more recent Net searches I do see some discrepancies that might hint at replacement, but it's also possible I saw a stunt double, stage understudy, or hired "double" who was simply on call that weekend.
The weirdest thing was how OBVIOUS the whole "I'm a rock star and I'm walking around town in my yellow rocker's one piece jumpsuit going to the Tower Record store" thing was. Like it HAD to be an actor pretending to be him. Doing a poor imitation.
But who knows?
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 14:30:41 GMT -5
This woman who was the concierge there during the time MJ was staying there told me about how he would have groups of 10 - 15 Mexican boys, under the age of 15, shipped in by a mysterious limo driver who would show up at the back delivery entrance and bring the kids in for "play dates" with Michael. And MJ also always had Bubbles the chimp with him and some other staff/entourage. The boys would stay over for a night or two and then be shipped back out again. My friend and all the staff used to dealing with VIP's knew that they would be blacklisted from working in the hotel industry in New York if they let word get out about this. The rooms were always a mess afterwards, she told me. Semen stains all over the expensive couches. She showed me some of the specific couches that had had to be replaced several times. Nasty stuff. She didn't want to tell me anything more, but suffice it to say that the insiders in the VIP hotel/lodgings world see a lot of stuff involving child sex trafficking and sex slavery and these people being shipped in for certain stars. The same goes for women sex slaves, too, it all depends on the celebrity's tastes. Another hotel industry friend who worked in lots of LA hotels on the West coast talked about Tom Cruise (one of the Foms, no doubt) who keeps to this day a special luxury penthose apartment for parties with his male gay friends - and sometimes they ship in gay male escorts, some of them underaged. So there is a ton of this underground sex slave/prostitution/trafficking stuff that sits right along side the drug industry, both with parasitic hands in the world of stars, celebs, and models. Were the "originals" this goofed up? I don't know. The replacements do seem heavily indulged, though. They get all the drugs and sex they want, plus loads of spending money, fame, attention, etc. This is incredible stuff here. It hurts me, because it´s about lifeforms, that get abused. This part hurts me, when I read this information. But also I want to learn more about the things that these people do behind closed doors. I´m no expert like most users here on this awesome board, so I can´t say a lot about all this. I just study all this because of Josefine and because I feel that technology for creating clones exists. I would still like to know following things: Why all this darkness? Why all people who are stars are so full of darkness and WRONG sexuality? Is it a possession? Are they possessed by reptilians of 4th denity? But when they are clones and synthetical, is this still possible? And where is their soul? I really would like to know in detail how a synthetic clone works. Is he able to think? Is he able to study a philosphical book from Friedrich Nietzsche? I heard somewhere that clones don´t know they are synthetic and clones. They don´t know anything about their situation. They just live in a very little awareness and without any morality, not because they love to be evil and dark, but because trough the cloning process all the higher gates between body and mind get lost till they don´t exist anymore. So these lifeforms just are a body, without a connection between mind (soul) and body. They just are biological. Complete. Like dolls. It could be, I´m not sure, that synthetics get produced so some people in extremly high positions can have sex with every possible girls, woman, boy and guy that exists. As a example, Mr. X could say "I would like to have Heidi Klum in my sleeping room", so he invites Heidi Klum, isolates somehow her DNA, maybe she even likes this idea because she doesn´t know his real idea behind it, so Heidi Klum goes again home. Mr. X goes with the DNA from Heidi Klum to a labor and they start making a clone of Heidi Klum, not sure how long it takes and how they do it, but it could be that they are able to transform a body from a different person so it makes a mutation and shifts from one dna to another dna, so a Julia Roberts would turn trough technology into a Heidi Klum. They do so much, and all these sexual wrong things.. when they are really that extremly pedophile... and they have these technologys for cloning.. and building humans complete without cloning processes... than they can create their own humans... children... boys and girls... just to have sex with them.. and now imagine that they create babys... its hard to study all this information on this board... because its really, really hard in a emotional sense, somehow... Tabasco, I do think that many stars begin as innocent, spiritually sensitive beings with immense talent and that some of them end up surrounded by or working for dark people, dark organizations, and dark NON humans (ET's or hybrids) and once that stuff happens, they can barely control what happens next. However, you do have to WANT to make it in show business and have that desire - to reach the point where you say, "Screw it, I just want the work." That invites in the other stuff - the possession, the prostitution, and worse. Unfortunately, though, sometimes it will be a person's agent, manager, parent, producer, or director boyfriend who dominates the decision making process, and the artist might be naive or powerless about saying "No." It's all very, very sad. Clones and synthetics - I'm not really sure what all is going on there, myself. I do have a theory that sometimes horrific plastic surgery, of the type that really is more mutilation than beauty improvement, can sometimes be done as a form of torture to bring the star "in line." I can't look at some celebs like Mickey Rourke, Heidi Montag, and Ashley Simpson without thinking "Maybe the original is still in there but they were tortured into shutting up or falling in line in some way." So using extreme surgeries as a form of torture and abuse might happen long before someone is actually replaced, or maybe in place of replacement. But then some real plastic surgery DOES take place to make replacements look like the originals, too, or to even "improve" upon the originals. So it all gets very confusing. Jezebel.com has had a lot of interesting exposes of how blatant the extreme use of PHotoshopping has become on magazine covers - not really a surprise, but interesting. So you'll see an actress who is perfectly fit get PHotoshopped down to a size zero waist just because the sick as f**k editors are part of the agenda promoting women to be undernourished, weakened, and submissive. (That's a whole different story, magazine editors. The few nice ones I worked with were few and far between and they were often replaced by the very literal WHORES that owners like SI Newhouse would bring in to take over his various publications. Whole different war story there. YUCK. All of the arts are so horrifically controlled by yucky, possessed and/or non human beings. )
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 14:54:24 GMT -5
WOW, Bristol Palin already pregnant 4 times? Thats indeed news to me. What a naughty girl! And none of them conceived with her own dad, as many said? About the potential incest thing......put it this way. At least TWO bloggers who were covering the anomalies of the birth/conception/delivery of the Down Syndrome child we now know as "Trig Palin" BRIEFLY mentioned the incest thing and a WHOLE LOT OF HURT happened for both women. Death threats, one got sued, and more. Maybe it was from Sarah's "fans," but maybe there was more to it. The parentage of Sarah's own children is mixed. Curt Menard was mysteriously killed when someone put stuff in his fuel line and he flew his small plane and crashed. This was after a reported affair with Sarah. It is likely that Track Palin, who looks just like Curt Menard and granddaddy Menard (the ears especially are a giveway,) is the son of Curt. And there are questions about Sarah's other children and them not belonging to her current husband Todd. The scariest stuff as you research the family are the shady origins of CHuck Heath, Sarah's dad. He remade his own history and looks like he had to leave one state and flee a couple of times. Lots of revisionist history around that man. PHotos of him show a possessed being who is not human. Also, he has been openly quoted regarding Sarah having little kids around in saying that "little kids are always losing their underwear" and other horrific quotes that hint at sexual abuse in that family. Then you look at the family's scary Dominionist ties, and how Dominionists are working hard to bring on Armageddon and the Rapture, and within their sect they encourage lying to non-believers because non-believers are literally considered NOT REAL, or demons, and you start to see more of the nasty pathology.
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Post by feliciag on Sept 1, 2010 15:16:53 GMT -5
Different subject - going back to the whole idea of dopplegangers.
Traditionally a doppleganger is considered a double, either a physical being or a non-physical being, which mimics someone else in every way, to the point that people get confused as to who is real and who is the "original."
One of the most famous doppleganger stories was of Percy Bysshe Shelley, husband of Mary Shelley of Frankenstein fame. Not long before Shelley's death his friends reported seeing him walking outside a window of the house, but it wasn't him because the real Shelley was somewhere else at the time. Since he died soon afterward, there were whispers that that had been a doppleganger - which can often be said to be a harbinger of the original's death.
If you travel at all in this world and happen to work in a field in which you are exposed to lots of strangers, you soon see that there are only a certain amount of body/skin/voice/personality types out there.
In my work as an actress I'd regularly move to a new town, end up living in close quarters with thirty complete strangers, and get to be very close to those new friends during the time we'd work on a show together.
What struck me after a few years of doing this is that I was starting to see doubles everywhere. Certain "types" kept repeating themselves. Amongst gay men, for instance, I kept seeing repetitions of almost the exact same type of man over and over again. Very eerie when you've travelled to a new part of the country, the guy has a different name, and he sounds, looks, and acts exactly like someone you befriended months before in a different state, on a different acting job.
When you haven't travelled much, you don't see this stuff. But it's real.
So that DOES mean that the frequency of NATURAL physical/voice/and personality doubles is higher than you might think - unless you have travelled a lot and spent time with tons of strangers as a gypsy performer type like me has.
Then I went on to do counselling for a decade and worked with thousands upon thousands of strangers. And I saw doubles ALL THE TIME. These weren't just people who looked alike, talked alike, etc. Their ISSUES and problems, the dynamics they were experiencing in relationships, family, and work, repeated themselves. So I'd meet someone through a referral who lived in one state and talk with her and she would almost exactly mirror somebody I'd met five years earlier in a different situation, different state, and the issues the person was dealing with were exactly the same.
Some people talk about "twinning" as a programming phenomenon, and this is when two people, unbeknownst to each other, are chosen from birth to lead eerily parallel lives, experience similar mind control, patterns in their lives, and so forth. They may or may not eventually meet.
But I'm not really talking about that.
I'm talking about the fact that we aren't that original. We like to think we are. But if you travel around from state to state, talk with and intersect with thousands of people in each state, you are going to find people who are very similar to other people, and this isn't necessarily something that has been manipulated. It can be entirely natural. The people who resemble each other might not ever know each other.
I've had a lot of times in this lifetime when people have sworn up and down that they know me and knew me. Sometimes by a different name. As a little girl visiting with distant family in Kansas I had a group of schoolchildren my age (I was in sixth grade at the time) swear that my name was something else and they all really liked this other girl and were happy I had come back.
I've had people I met through children's theater tours, both students and administration, swear that they knew me already - by a different name.
The weirdest celeb-related experience I had where someone swore they already knew me was with Remington Steele actress Stephanie Zimbalist.
In 1989, after Remington Steele had ended, (and I believe before her former costar Pierce Brosnan was taking over the Bond franchise - or maybe he was just starting to?) Stephanie was doing a few TV movies. She did a move for the Hallmark Hall of Fame people called "Caroline?"
The plot of the movie was weird. In it, Stephanie played a woman who took over another woman's identity - pretending to be the real Caroline - so the movie was all about a double taking over for the original.
I was just a day player, an extra with no lines, and I had a couple of days work doing background scenes. It was set in the 1950's so we had to get dressed by the costume people in period outfits and makeup and hair, which was fun. I was dressed and then sent to a trailer to get my makeup and hair touched up. Stephanie Zimbalist was already in the trailer getting her hair and makeup done. She was talking with some of her people and I didn't inject myself into the equation, not knowing if she was one of those stars who hated people to bother her or not.
But she saw me right away and her eyes got big, and she said, "Hi, I know you! You were on that other set - " And she went on to describe how she and "I" had gotten to know each other really well, struck up a friendship, on the set of another project she had done. But she couldn't remember my name.
I said, "Um, Ms. Zimbalist, I'm glad you and that other woman had such a nice chat, but I'm afraid it wasn't me. " And I told her who I was and how I lived in Atlanta (we were filming in a pretty old neighborhood in Atlanta, just a few blocks from where I lived at the time.)
She was polite but really surprised. She said, "No, you're (so and so) and I remember talking to you, and it's nice you're here again and we get to work together again."
She was really insistent that I was this other person.
I don't know if it was because I was in costume, wearing a nice woman's tailored suit from the 1950's, with my hair back, or what - but Stephanie really thought she had met me before.
I didn't get to talk to her anymore that day as I was just doing background work and Stephanie was only in some of the scenes, anyway.
But isn't that weird?
To me it just shows you how easily a double can pretend to be the real thing - even if the double was me!
And given my travels, I know for a fact that body types, skin types, profile, mannerisms, tone of voice, and personality REPEAT THEMSELVES FREQUENTLY.
So it wouldn't be at all hard say, if you were trying to "recruit" a certain type of double, to canvas the population and locate people who closely resembled other people.
I don't think "cloning" is required, at all. The naturally occurring doubles out there in the population are rich and frequent. Perhaps cloning does take place, but from what I've observed, finding natural doubles is pretty easy.
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Post by sabrina on Sept 1, 2010 15:20:21 GMT -5
All of the arts are so horrifically controlled by yucky, possessed and/or non human beings. ) That makes sense because making art is soul expression and has great power to uplift other souls out of the darkness. There's clearly something larger at work here. I know what you mean about interdimensional synchs and stuff....Sometimes I feel like when that stuff dies down for me I'm on the WRONG track, because if I were on the right track the evil forces would still be trying to destroy me!
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