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Post by lucy on Aug 28, 2010 15:55:55 GMT -5
I remember in Cathy O Brien's book TranceFormation of America, that she was kept thin by her handlers, she was athletic in her days at a Catholic School. I recall that they would keep her busy doing anything, housework, yard work, to stay thin. In her follow up book, she wrote about meeting a woman years later who helped her through herbs and supplements, in order for her digestive system to work properly again.
These people are truly sleazy and I suspected such dirty dealings when you read about the stuff Cathy O Brien discussed among heads of state and politicians. Would be the same in the "acting" field.
How many of those so called actresses the media drools over are not talented at all when it comes to "acting"...their talent is in bedroom, boardroom and sofas all over Hellywood. Indeed the name fits.
I cringe whenever I channel surf and stop on any given "star"...I shudder to think of what they did to get where they were and wondered is it worth losing your soul to be "famous"? When they are done with the stars they are killed off, or killed off and replaced, or kept alive some secluded place and tormented and experimented on.
It also makes me wonder how much of this goes on in the "pageant" circuit??? Not that I want details, but after seeing what they do to baby pageant contestants...makes me wonder how much abuse goes on...like Jon Benet Ramsey...and how many others? Ugh.
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Post by feliciag on Aug 28, 2010 17:11:44 GMT -5
I remember in Cathy O Brien's book TranceFormation of America, that she was kept thin by her handlers, she was athletic in her days at a Catholic School. I recall that they would keep her busy doing anything, housework, yard work, to stay thin. In her follow up book, she wrote about meeting a woman years later who helped her through herbs and supplements, in order for her digestive system to work properly again. These people are truly sleazy and I suspected such dirty dealings when you read about the stuff Cathy O Brien discussed among heads of state and politicians. Would be the same in the "acting" field. How many of those so called actresses the media drools over are not talented at all when it comes to "acting"...their talent is in bedroom, boardroom and sofas all over Hellywood. Indeed the name fits. I cringe whenever I channel surf and stop on any given "star"...I shudder to think of what they did to get where they were and wondered is it worth losing your soul to be "famous"? When they are done with the stars they are killed off, or killed off and replaced, or kept alive some secluded place and tormented and experimented on. It also makes me wonder how much of this goes on in the "pageant" circuit??? Not that I want details, but after seeing what they do to baby pageant contestants...makes me wonder how much abuse goes on...like Jon Benet Ramsey...and how many others? Ugh. Yeah, it's there in the pageant industry. I was in the Miss Teen Pennsylvania pageant back in the day, I think that is what it was called, and during the three day rehearsal period before the pageant I was pretty much told by the production heads that I was being given a very favorable rating by the important people, because I could sing, dance, had good grades, etc. It was weird, it was like they were telling me in advance I was going to win. Not that the prize was much - I think it was just a couple of thousand dollars which you could use toward your college education. Anyway, as we headed into the dress rehearsal stage and were finalizing our performances for the show/pageant (lots of song and dance numbers we had to perform as a large group), one girl who was very sexually precocious, who had a REALLY large rack on her, started noticing how the judges and pageant directors were paying me a lot of attention, and she started kissing up to them. She ended up winning the pageant. I kept in touch with my roommates - three girls I had roomed with over that rehearsal weekend who were all contestants like me - and one of them later told me that that girl who won had slept with one of the male production people. Pure coincidence that she happened to win, of course. The girl was 16 years old but looked 22. I hope she was okay after that and didn't sink into the horrible little sideshow world of the larger national pageants. I also knew a former Miss Pennsylvania, a very clean cut athlete type of woman, she was Miss PA in the late 80's sometime; she talked about how at the national pageant it was all about who would be most sexually accommodating to the judges that weekend before the final pageant show was held. She didn't win Miss USA but after what she saw, she had no regrets about it! |
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Post by feliciag on Aug 28, 2010 17:14:05 GMT -5
You know the now "D" list actress Tara Reid? (She of the addictions, the horrible plastic surgeries, etc.) She makes her living earning about $20,000 - $50,000 (when she looked better) as a private "escort' to many wealthy international men.
When you are a C or D list celebrity female, you earn more as a prostitute than as an actress. I guess the attitude of these poor, abused mind=controlled women is "at least it's a job!"
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Post by The Mask on Aug 29, 2010 19:29:41 GMT -5
$20,000 to $50,000 a night? A month? A year?
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Post by feliciag on Aug 30, 2010 10:19:56 GMT -5
$20,000 to $50,000 a night? A month? A year? Per "gig" -- which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht. The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time - she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map - she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with certain, um, tastes. This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too, where this stuff is widely known about. Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000 for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series - they can actually make more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole 'nuther story.) In addition, many female "celebs" got started in prostitution and later became "stars." Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into prostitution, serviced the "right" client, and then their careers became bigger again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had more work as a call girl than anything else. Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people who were in her "little black book" and that's how that horrible woman was foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she's always been, what she's always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to $1million to show up at a "party" for the Kind of Bahrain's son or whatever - she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time. [/quote] |
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Post by sabrina on Aug 30, 2010 13:07:03 GMT -5
$20,000 to $50,000 a night? A month? A year? Per "gig" -- which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht. The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time - she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map - she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with certain, um, tastes. This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too, where this stuff is widely known about. Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000 for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series - they can actually make more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole 'nuther story.) In addition, many female "celebs" got started in prostitution and later became "stars." Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into prostitution, serviced the "right" client, and then their careers became bigger again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had more work as a call girl than anything else. Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people who were in her "little black book" and that's how that horrible woman was foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she's always been, what she's always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to $1million to show up at a "party" for the Kind of Bahrain's son or whatever - she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time. I figured as much, but here's my question: Why would they still use some of these women when they look so haggard and awful? Like Lindsay Lohan I'm sure is still being used, Kate Moss and Pamela Anderson ...I guess. But couldn't they get fresh faced, prettier victims to use at this point? Or is it more than looks that they are looking for? Reminds me of something in the Springmeier book where he talked about how it doesn't take beauty to be used in Illuminati porn because so much of it is perversions and twisted stuff. It only takes someone who can endure pain, overuse and willing to do anything disgusting, or maybe even satanic things like sacrifice, pedophilia. Do you think that's what's going on with the slaves who are still being used past their sell-by date? |
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Post by feliciag on Aug 30, 2010 13:41:07 GMT -5
Per "gig" -- which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht. The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time - she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map - she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with certain, um, tastes. This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too, where this stuff is widely known about. Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000 for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series - they can actually make more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole 'nuther story.) In addition, many female "celebs" got started in prostitution and later became "stars." Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into prostitution, serviced the "right" client, and then their careers became bigger again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had more work as a call girl than anything else. Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people who were in her "little black book" and that's how that horrible woman was foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she's always been, what she's always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to $1million to show up at a "party" for the Kind of Bahrain's son or whatever - she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time. I figured as much, but here's my question: Why would they still use some of these women when they look so haggard and awful? Like Lindsay Lohan I'm sure is still being used, Kate Moss and Pamela Anderson ...I guess. But couldn't they get fresh faced, prettier victims to use at this point? Or is it more than looks that they are looking for? Reminds me of something in the Springmeier book where he talked about how it doesn't take beauty to be used in Illuminati porn because so much of it is perversions and twisted stuff. It only takes someone who can endure pain, overuse and willing to do anything disgusting, or maybe even satanic things like sacrifice, pedophilia. Do you think that's what's going on with the slaves who are still being used past their sell-by date? There is also a big esoteric/psychic ritual component. Depending on the wiring of the woman, she might be used to conceive a particular type of soul during a ritual, be used as a breeder, then the baby "disappears". Also sexual rituals are used to bring energy to a person, company, project, endeavor, or location. Older women are often used to help a younger member (male usually) of a connected family celebrate his sexual maturity - think like a bar or bat mitzvah ceremony, only instead of coming of age spiritually, he is celebrating coming of age sexually. This can be done when the child is between 12 - 15 for boys, and not too long after a girl's first period for the young girls. You have the Madonnas who groom the younger women to eventually take their place with the sexual/psychic rituals, but sometimes the older ones are still being used for other things. It's never really been about youth but more about energy and being able to access that person to harvest their psychic energy/emotional energy, and the women who have had a lot of sexual abuse and fragmentation and damage in their past are especially "popular" in this regard because they can be trained not to remember being abused and will tend to dismiss everything as a great party in which they had great drugs/drink, had sex with multiple people, and went home with a lot of money. Pamela Anderson "wrote" a novel a while back that talked about one of her alter egos and discussed the frequent orgies "she" participated in. Thinly veiled real stuff. But I don't think that book talked about any of the deeper esoteric stuff. Again, with mind control and fragmentation sometimes the person doesn't recall everything they end up being used for. |
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Post by sabrina on Aug 30, 2010 13:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by artemis on Aug 30, 2010 15:50:47 GMT -5
Makes u think about all the celebs rumored/said at one time they're pregnant, then no mention of their babies after that. There is also the category of those who gave birth, everybody knows it, but noone saw the child/children. Or the child is shown to the public after a certain number of years, when he/she is already big, which I find it weird again. One example that comes to mind is SHANIA TWAIN (now probably replaced, as I mentioned once here).
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Post by The Mask on Aug 30, 2010 20:14:11 GMT -5
$20,000 to $50,000 a night? A month? A year? Per "gig" -- which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht. The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time - she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map - she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with certain, um, tastes. This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too, where this stuff is widely known about. Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000 for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series - they can actually make more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole 'nuther story.) In addition, many female "celebs" got started in prostitution and later became "stars." Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into prostitution, serviced the "right" client, and then their careers became bigger again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had more work as a call girl than anything else. Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people who were in her "little black book" and that's how that horrible woman was foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she's always been, what she's always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to $1million to show up at a "party" for the Kind of Bahrain's son or whatever - she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time. Shocking!  |
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Post by The Mask on Aug 30, 2010 20:15:46 GMT -5
I figured as much, but here's my question: Why would they still use some of these women when they look so haggard and awful? Like Lindsay Lohan I'm sure is still being used, Kate Moss and Pamela Anderson ...I guess. But couldn't they get fresh faced, prettier victims to use at this point? Or is it more than looks that they are looking for? Reminds me of something in the Springmeier book where he talked about how it doesn't take beauty to be used in Illuminati porn because so much of it is perversions and twisted stuff. It only takes someone who can endure pain, overuse and willing to do anything disgusting, or maybe even satanic things like sacrifice, pedophilia. Do you think that's what's going on with the slaves who are still being used past their sell-by date? There is also a big esoteric/psychic ritual component. Depending on the wiring of the woman, she might be used to conceive a particular type of soul during a ritual, be used as a breeder, then the baby "disappears". Also sexual rituals are used to bring energy to a person, company, project, endeavor, or location. Older women are often used to help a younger member (male usually) of a connected family celebrate his sexual maturity - think like a bar or bat mitzvah ceremony, only instead of coming of age spiritually, he is celebrating coming of age sexually. This can be done when the child is between 12 - 15 for boys, and not too long after a girl's first period for the young girls. You have the Madonnas who groom the younger women to eventually take their place with the sexual/psychic rituals, but sometimes the older ones are still being used for other things. It's never really been about youth but more about energy and being able to access that person to harvest their psychic energy/emotional energy, and the women who have had a lot of sexual abuse and fragmentation and damage in their past are especially "popular" in this regard because they can be trained not to remember being abused and will tend to dismiss everything as a great party in which they had great drugs/drink, had sex with multiple people, and went home with a lot of money. Pamela Anderson "wrote" a novel a while back that talked about one of her alter egos and discussed the frequent orgies "she" participated in. Thinly veiled real stuff. But I don't think that book talked about any of the deeper esoteric stuff. Again, with mind control and fragmentation sometimes the person doesn't recall everything they end up being used for. Now it makes more sense. What better way to get women to participate in sexual ritual but promise them fame and money? And they aren't even aware of it! |
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Post by sherlok on Aug 30, 2010 22:28:33 GMT -5
Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) Current minimum S.A.G. day rate is $809 in Hollywood. Does not include residuals, overtime, etc. |
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Post by feliciag on Aug 31, 2010 17:41:09 GMT -5
Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) Current minimum S.A.G. day rate is $809 in Hollywood. Does not include residuals, overtime, etc. Thanks for the pay update - I've still got figures in my head from the late 80's/early 90's when I was in the industry - although I never joined the unions as I mostly did stage work and made more being non-Equity than most of the true Equity actors I knew (a lot of them worked under pseudonyms in non-union theater settings so they could continue to pay bills, since Equity work is rare as hen's teeth.) I know a second tier TV actress/C-D list movie actress who has done some story arcs on various crime/law type series-- often as the long suffering wife who turns out to be the killer, that type of thing - she usually films for two days max (AFTRA work) and since she has a bit of a "name" she pulls about $10,000 - $25,000 when she gets a story arc like that. Still, she works rarely, like most actresses her age (she's in her 50's now.) If she had slightly more name recognition she says she could probably make more for these types of gigs, but since she hasn't been in a mainstream movie for a while, her "asking price" keeps going down. She's someone who actually didnt' end up in the prostitution/sex slave track - but then she took a long time off from the biz to get married, have kids, live a normal life away from LA or New York - and she is also more of a character actress type than a blonde/buxomed/impressionable sex kitten type - which probably saved her! |
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Post by sherlok on Aug 31, 2010 19:10:27 GMT -5
^ Yes, minimums are just that. One can certainly make more but few do.
About all most "working stiff" union members can get is "scale plus 10" which
means minimum rates plus 10% (the 10% goes to the agent). And, only
a very small percentage work more than a few days per year, if that. That's
why some do background (extra) work if they're not "above" doing that sort
of thing. Actually, a lot of union extras make more than most actors in
Hollywood. A union "extra" can make thousands on one good commercial job
or even 10s of thousands under the right circumstances. But, getting those
jobs are tough.
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Post by lucy on Aug 31, 2010 19:29:15 GMT -5
I shudder to think what they do with the babies these celebs secretly have....sacrificed, abused, used in cloning or some other stem cell experiments...
Truly maddening!
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