Rumor That Alex Jones Is Actually Bill Hicks

[beatlies]

Very interesting theory that not only is Alex Jones a COINTELPRO-type agent, he is in fact the (supposedly dead) COINTELPRO media agent comedian Bill Hicks in disguise, with apparently a very minimal amount of plastic surgery. I don't necessarily believe this (and haven't researched it yet), but it's one of the more widely-known dopple-imposter ideas out there in the public at the moment, and so deserves recognition and discussion.

In any case, Alex Jones and Bill Hicks do look startlingly alike, and both are from Texas.

Here is thread from another forum on the subject:

www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=1&messageid=442300&showdate=10/5/07&mpage=1


ALEX JONES


BILL HICKS


One poster in the above linked thread wrote:

"Re: ALEX JONES = BILL HICKS Quote

NO, Bill Hicks IS Alex Jones. Read this:

Bill played the final show of his career at Caroline's in New York on January 6, 1994. Bill moved back to his parents' house in Little Rock, Arkansas shortly thereafter. He called his friends to say goodbye before he stopped speaking on February 14, and died in the presence of his parents at 11:20 p.m. on February 26, 1994 of pancreatic cancer.[9] Bill was buried on the family plot in Leakesville, Mississippi.


they didn't even take him to a hospital? Sounds suspicious. He told his friends goodbye over the phone?

Also, check this out. Tool did a song called Aenema which features Alex Jones' Arizona Bay philosophy and the closing track titled "Third Eye" includes some of Bill Hicks' stuff. "Third Eye"....come on guys....there is some weird weird nuts going on. Why would Tool give a nuts about Bill Hicks? Man....this is very bizarre.

Bill Hicks was only 33 when he supposedly died. Consider the fact that Bill Hicks had a huge ego. I don't think he's dead. I think that dude was so crazy that he'd fake his own death and that would explain why hollywood keeps having him on his shows. Maybe they know he isn't dead. That's why Alex Jones is on so many news and hollywood shows.

Ok now listen to this.

Bill Hicks died in 1994.

There is no sign of Alex Jones until 1996 when he gets his first radio show.

They say Alex Jones was born in 1974. 1974 !! That means Alex was only 22 yrs old when he got his first radio show? That's a little hard for me to believe. And then Just one year later, he is releasing films? ONe film in 1997 called "America destroyed by design". So Alex Jones is supposed to only be 23 yrs old in that film. I need to go watch it and see if he looks 23 in that. I don't buy it. I'm 31 and to me, Alex Jones seems a hell of a lot older than 33. There is no way that he is 33. No way. More like 45. Bill Hicks was born in 1961 which means that he would be 46 yrs old right now. That seems about right to me for Alex Jones. Will let you know what else I find out..... "

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Another thread on Alex Jones as agent, "limited hangout" shill, a role similar to that played by Bill Hicks. "Alex Jones Silent on Missing Nukes Story" :

www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=1&showdate=10/5/07&messageid=435466&mpage=1


Pleased to meet you
Pleased to meet you
Hope you've guessed my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game ....

[beatlies]

Below: Alex Jones(?) taking questions from Bill Hicks' longtime friend and business partner Kevin Booth. Booth mentions Bill Hicks and "Sacred Cow" productions, the Hicks-Booth company and website with which Alex Jones(?) is involved and often cited.

There is another little smirking inside joke laid down by Jones/Hicks here: he manages to work in, toward the beginning, the phrase "Kill Kill Kill!" ---which of course all Get Smart and Sacred Cows fans will recognize as the top hit, mass mind control song of Kaos' evil, psychedelic rock group, The Sacred Cows.

Alex Jones:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I7s_Y-SNDY

And,

The Sacred Cows of Maxwell Smart's Silver Hammer:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwSgk5U0Zk

And, "Sacred Cow Productions"

www.sacredcow.com

They have their own "conspiracy forum" there. Maybe someone should sign up and link to this thread and dopplegangers forum.


Kevin Booth seems to be to Bill Hicks what Bob Zmuda is to Andy Kaufman.



Edit: One of the Get Smart "Sacred Cows" members is Larry Knechtel, who played with the Byrds and on the Beach Boys' goat's head cover Pet Sounds.





Edit:

SSDI database searches for both "William Hicks born 1962" and "Melvin Hicks born 1962" yields NO RESULTS for Bill Hicks, suggesting that Bill Hicks did not die. All the other dead celebrities I tried this for, such as Kurt Cobain, produced positive and confirming results, including date of death and social security number.

Very interesting.

Edit2:

A 911 truth blogger at 911blogger.com is using the name "Bill Hicks Zombie." His latest article is a piece by Sander Hicks, an "alternative" political publishing magnate and a "left gatekeeper" type. I have been wondering if there is some link, through family (the name) or otherwise between Bill Hicks and [Sander Hicks. By the way, Sander Hicks is wrong, this is not the first death of a 911 researcher/activist.

zombie bill hicks's blog
( Home » zombie bill hicks's... )


Submitted by zombie bill hicks on Tue, 10/16/2007 - 7:01pm.

Will DOJ Look into the First Death of a U.S. 9/11 Researcher?

By Sander Hicks
October 14, 2007

From 9/24 to 10/1/07 I traveled throughout Louisiana and Texas, with reporter Jordan Green, investigating the death of 9/11 researcher Dr. David Graham.

Our suspicions were validated: there’s a huge story here. It’s almost overwhelming. The best way to summarize is to publish my complaint filed last week with the Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General.

If you support an investigation into the death of Dr. Graham, please say so, in the comments section, at the end. (Please send me your email, too, I may be doing some sort of activism around this. Mine is sander [at] voxpopnet.net

[beatlies]

The middle name they chose for this fake person, Alex Jones, is perhaps also a tell: "Alex Emerick Jones" born 2/11/74.

Geoff Emerick is a key Beatles/McCartney-Imposter sound engineer and producer. "Geoff" has also been suggested at the TKIN forum as a possible first name for the real name of the main
Paul McCartney-imposter.

From wikipedia,

Geoff Emerick

Geoffrey Emerick (born 1946 in London) is a recording studio audio engineer, who is best known for his work with the Beatles' albums Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, The White Album and Abbey Road.

The first album he did with the Beatles working as main recording engineer was Revolver, and "Tomorrow Never Knows" was the first track he worked on, after having taken over the engineering duties from Norman Smith who became a producer.

It was Emerick's innovation to record John Lennon's vocal through a Leslie speaker on that song, to get the ethereal sound Lennon wanted. He received Grammy Awards for the engineering of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and Abbey Road. Emerick, like Beatles producer George Martin, brought an adventurous and experimental attitude to his work.

His post-Beatles career included work with Paul McCartney (including Band On The Run [which netted Emerick another Grammy], London Town, and Flaming Pie), Elvis Costello (for whom he produced Imperial Bedroom and All This Useless Beauty), Art Garfunkel, America, Supertramp, Cheap Trick, Split Enz, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Matthew Fisher's first solo album "Journey's End," and Jeff Beck, as well as Nellie McKay's critically acclaimed 2004 debut CD Get Away from Me. He was the sound engineer on Robin Trower's most popular album Bridge of Sighs, and credited by both Trower and producer Matthew Fisher for that album's acclaimed sound.

In 2003, he received his fourth Grammy, this time for lifetime Technical Achievement.

In 2006, Emerick released his memoir, Here, There, and Everywhere: My Life Recording the Music of The Beatles (Gotham Books, ISBN 1-59240-179-1), co-authored by veteran music journalist Howard Massey.

On the April 3, 2007 it was announced that Emerick would be in charge of a re-recording of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club by contemporary artists, including Oasis, The Killers, Travis and Razorlight. Emerick used the original equipment to record the new versions of the songs, and the results were broadcast on BBC Radio 2 on the June 2, marking the album's 40th anniversary.


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2006 video interview at Blender.com
Video Interview at 121st AES at Gearwire.com
Here, There & Everywhere
Programme about BBC re-recording of Sgt Pepper
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[beatlies]

Site about Kurt Cobain's death being fake and his identity reassignment as Rivers Cuomo of "weezer" (who became a Harvard student after dropping his career with that band):

riverscobain.web1000.com/rc/1.html

Alex Jones = Bill Hicks?

Rivers Cuomo = Kurt Cobain?


RIVERS CUOMO

[beatlies]

beatlies said:

Site about Kurt Cobain's death being fake and his identity reassignment as Rivers Cuomo of "weezer" (who became a Harvard student after dropping his career with that band):

riverscobain.web1000.com/rc/1.html

Alex Jones = Bill Hicks?

Rivers Cuomo = Kurt Cobain?


RIVERS CUOMO

KURT COBAIN

Okay, a quick review of availble information on River Cuomo on the web and already I'm finding a lot of anomalies and contradictions on this guy.

In the below interview with the Harvard Crimson he says he entered Harvard as a second semester sophomore (very few are able to do this, but it does happen) in 1995. Officially, Rivers Cuomo was born on June 13, 1970. That would make him 25 entering Harvard as an undergraduate. Way too old. Where are the 1995 press reports of Rivers Cuomo entering Harvard? And it doesn't say from what college he transferred.

Rivers' End: The Director's Cut

Published On Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:04 PM

By ABE J. RIESMAN

Crimson Staff Writer


CRIMSON/ JEREMY S. SINGER-VINE

The Harvard Crimson: When have you been at Harvard, exactly?

Rivers Cuomo: I transferred in as a second-semester sophomore in the fall of ¡¯95.


THC: And you were there for the semester after that, the spring semester of ¡¯96?

RC: Yeah.


THC: Were you there for fall semester of ¡¯96?

RC: No. ¡°Pinkerton¡± came out on September 24th, and we toured that fall. And then I came back at the end of January.


THC: Okay, and you were there for that semester.

RC: Yeah.


THC: Okay, and then in fall of ¡¯97, you came back to Cambridge, but you didn¡¯t attend?

RC: Right. I backed out at the last second.


THC: So that was it for a while, and then you came back in Fall of 2004?

RC: Right.


THC: What do you think your favorite course has been, since you¡¯ve been here?

RC: So many. Music 51 immediately comes to mind, with John Stewart.

[beatlies]

On tour with "weezer" in Japan, RIVERS CUOMO (KURT COBAIN?) startles his audience by, out of nowhere, greeting them with:

"HEIL HITLER MOTHERf**kERS"

Why haven't we heard more about this incident?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubrllIIgmm8&feature=related



A 1996 interview with Rivers Cuomo. This top rock star is supposed to have entered Harvard College in September of 1995, yet there is no article from that time to be found anywhere mentioning this. This interviewer also does not mention it at all:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5nWi7JPMso&feature=related


The eaerliest references I can find for Rivers Cuomo matriculating at Harvard in 1995 are from 2002:

Rolling Stone

May 2002

Rivers Cuomo's Encyclopedia of Pop

How the Weezer frontman cracked the code of the perfect song


Rivers Cuomo stares at the screen of his laptop, its glow reflected in the lenses of his black-rimmed glasses. "Want to see my list?" he asks, and boots up an elaborate color-coded spreadsheet that catalogs all the songs he's written in the past three and a half years. Scrolling down, he shows off the latest entry -- number 377. There's pride in his voice, but he seems more excited about the spreadsheet than the prolificacy it documents.

This isn't the only chart he's kept: A few years ago, he started keeping a notebook of every song Kurt Cobain wrote. In it, he dissected the songs in as mathematical a manner as he could. "He figured if he could home in on Kurt's formula, he'd figure out his own formula," says Todd Sullivan, Weezer's A&R man. "That way, he would be a never-ending supply of songs."

"It wasn't only Nirvana," Cuomo says, "but also Oasis and Green Day." He still keeps a three-ring binder he calls "The Encyclopedia of Pop," full of his analysis of different artists. "I'm probably just a natural-born scientist. I like taking notes and analyzing things."

Thirteen of Cuomo's own tunes appear on Maladroit, Weezer's fourth album. Within a year, Cuomo -- who acts as the band's de facto manager and publicist -- hopes another dozen or so will land on a fifth Weezer record, already in the works. As for the rest, "most of them will rot in obscurity," he notes. "Which is probably where they belong."

"We're always trying to figure out when Rivers writes," says guitarist Brian Bell. "He's like a yin and yang of constantly working but procrastinating at the same time."

Today, Cuomo is conducting Weezer business out of an East Los Angeles recording studio that resembles a college dorm. Batik tapestries hang on the walls, alongside posters for campy horror flicks such as The Ghost in the Invisible Bikini. On a glass-top coffee table, zip-lock bags full of autographed Weezer CD booklets are stacked in neat piles, and Cuomo's assistant, Sarah Kim, is working at her laptop in the other corner of the room.

.......... Rivers is an odd character, but not as odd as you might have heard. There is something warm and inviting about this eccentric rock-star geek, sipping a Mountain Dew, instant-messaging his "cybergirlfriend" and playfully arguing with his band mates about who's better: Boz Scaggs or Bachman-Turner Overdrive.

The difficulty communicating with Cuomo is that it's often hard to tell whether he's being facetious. When he says he likes Drowning Pool and Limp Bizkit, I accuse him of being full of sh*t. "No, I'm not!" he says, but he seems to be suppressing a smirk. ........ [Smirk -Now that sounds like Kurt Cobain]


...... After the success of Weezer's 1994 debut, Rivers withdrew from the world [??] and enrolled in Harvard as an undergraduate. There he spent much of his first year with his left leg in a brace, following an operation to make it as long as his right leg.

............ The "Buddy Holly" video, which used clips from Happy Days, also nearly didn't make it: Weezer had trouble getting releases from Anson "Potsie" Williams and Erin "Joanie" Moran.

At Harvard, Cuomo switched majors several times, alternating between music and literature. He dropped out two semesters shy of graduation.

[lucy]

It makes for material for a SCI FI flick. Not saying that these things are not true, but for the casual observer, it may appear like some sort of fiction.

As for myself, I'm open to the idea that almost everyone who is famous, or had been famous has been part of the "plan" to subvert society into the New World Order

[beatlies]

lucy said:

It makes for material for a SCI FI flick. Not saying that these things are not true, but for the casual observer, it may appear like some sort of fiction.

As for myself, I'm open to the idea that almost everyone who is famous, or had been famous has been part of the "plan" to subvert society into the New World Order

Yes the filthy rich running our "globalized" society fear the power that fame can bring to any particular individual. Fame is a dangerous form of loose energy they feel a need to control.

[lucy]

Not only to control those famous people, BUT, using their music/films/television....to control us...mass manipulation.

[beatlies]

Some great photo comparisons of the man alternately known as "Kurt Cobain" and "Rivers Cuomo" contained in this thread:

only1rad.proboards62.com/index.cgi?board=gonebutnotforgotten&action=display&thread=1197793216

[beatlies]

"Identity Thief conned her way into the Ivy League"

www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/03/student.imposter.arrested/

Brings to mind Kurt Cobain-"Rivers Cuomo" and Harvard College.
Only in Cobain-Cuomo's case it had to be dome with complete collusion by people at all levels of Harvard administration.

There is a new book out on Kurt Cobain, "Heavier Than Heaven," with photos. In early 1994 these photos showing him wearing sunglasses with a different looking face, resembling Rivers Cuomo from what the viewer can see. Earlier photos and video of Cobain show him having an older, more jowly looking face. It's possible that Cobain may have had plastic surgery starting a few months before his faked death in April 1994 to prepare for the transformation to being Rivers Cuomo full time.

Relevant to Cobain-Cuomo identity wiki discussion on Cobain's handedness and other issues:

"Kurt cobain plays his guitar left handed

i found out that kurt cobain played left handed and yet is right handed


No, I think he's left handed. There's no reason he would play left-handed if he was right handed. On a side-note, I've seen many pictures where, the negative being mistakenly flipped, Cobain would play right-handed and Chris Novoselic left-handed.

Actually, it is easier to play rock guitar left handed, for many, if they are right hand dominant. The fingering of the fretboard is easier. Many write right, and play left. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.42.20.73 (talk) 18:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Wrong. Kurt was ambidextrous. He played lefty guitar, yet wrote with his right hand. So the first comment is right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.239.20.99 (talk) 17:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Cobain as a vegetarian
Just so it doesn't look like I'm being capricious - Cobain never called himself a vegetarian. The source that Sugarcubez is citing simply references Newsweek's Journals excerpts, but doesn't provide the text they're citing. The actual Newsweek excerpts don't include such a statement, and I couldn't find one in Journals myself. (Sugarcubez's source isn't a reliable source anyway, according to guidelines - there isn't "an established structure for fact-checking and editorial oversight".)

The closest source that I could find simply listed "a vegetarian diet" as one of the many things he tried in hopes of curing his stomach problem:

After trying everything for his stomach from pills to a vegetarian diet to a chanting regime, Kurt is ecstatic to have found a doctor who's prescribing him an experimental gastrointestinal medicine that works. He says he doesn't want to give the name because the medicine hasn't actually been approved by the FDA, but it's reduced his stomach episodes almost as effectively as heroin. "But now if I take heroin it makes me vomit right away, so that doesn't do any good." (Details, November 1993.)
Charles Cross later cited Cobain as listing "Taco Bell and thin-crust pepperoni pizza" as his favorite take-out items in 1993.

The real problem: Cobain is not on record calling himself as a vegetarian. It's also an issue of notability - it's not something he's known as. (Mainly because he wasn't.) -- ChrisB 04:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

"Yes I eat cow, I am not proud." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.203.252 (talk) 01:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Kurt Cobain's mood disorder
The Cross biography and other sources including Bev Cobain's interviews in relation to her youth suicide work make reference to Kurt having several diagnosis, in particular ADHD (for which he was medicated with Ritalin as a child) and bipolar disorder. This is at least as significant to Kurt's life, death and art as Kurt's drug use, and is as well documented. It warrants at least a link - especially given that the murder/suicide debate continues to be linked and gets so much page space. SJaneM 13:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

For starters, what does a bipolar diagnosis have to do with the murder/suicide links? There's no reason for the editor's note that you added.
Citing Cross for a bipolar diagnosis would be appropriate, especially if he can attribute it to a close family member. But I don't believe Bev counts - she was not close to Kurt's family. Between Cross and Azerrad's extensive interviewing - Kurt, Wendy, Don, Courtney, and several other members of Kurt's direct family were given ample opportunity to confirm the diagnosis and did not. Kurt and Courtney in particular went into notable detail about Kurt's medical issues growing up, and didn't mention it. I don't find Bev's story reliable, particuarly since the divulging was so self-serving (her book was about bipolar disorder). That doesn't mean that it isn't true - but it means we should get the information from a more reliable source. -- ChrisB 01:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] regarding the shotgun
the article makes it sound as if it would be impossible to fire a shotgun with your foot while having shoes on. have any of you ever handled a gun? it would be quite easy to do. unless the gun had a 100 pound trigger pull, you would only need to get the edge of your foot on the edge of the trigger in order for it to go off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.20.87 (talk) 16:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


Also regarding this :

Cobain was discovered in the spare room above the garage (referred to as "the greenhouse") at his Lake Washington home by Veca Electric employee Gary Smith. Smith arrived at the house that morning to install security lighting and saw him lying inside. Apart from a minor amount of blood coming out of Cobain's ear, Smith reported seeing no visible signs of trauma, and initially believed that Cobain was asleep.

I find it incredible that a point-blank shotgun blast would leave someone with a "minor amount of blood" visible. Ekoontz 00:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)"

[slimyslug]

I'm not buying any of the Alex Jones = Bill Hicks argument, but now this looks like a slam dunk!


RIVERS CUOMO

Nirvana-In Bloom
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3oEvaq71A

Btw, lotsa PWR/their satanic majesties/MPL productions suggestions implicit in the video as well.

[beatlies]

Feb 10, 2008 18:11:36 GMT -5 slimyslug said:

I'm not buying any of the Alex Jones = Bill Hicks argument, but now this looks like a slam dunk!


RIVERS CUOMO

Nirvana-In Bloom
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3oEvaq71A

Btw, lotsa PWR/their satanic majesties/MPL productions suggestions implicit in the video as well.
he's the one that writes all our pretty songs...
and he likes to shoot his gun (bang bang shoot shoot)

The rare dimpled chin of both Cobain and "Cuomo" is one obvious giveaway.

"Some want to fill the world with pretty love songs ..." ---Faul

[J Gimmysum Truth]

I vote no - Hicks was Zen, Alex is paranoid, and I think I have him alibied.

I've never heard this Kurt Cobain thing, it needs its own thread.

[beatlies]

I tend to think Bill and Alex are the same man. For the above-cited reasons in this thread. Also give a look at the "Andy Kaufman Fake Death" thread in the PID Miss Him forum, there's more discussion of Kurt Fake Death/ Rivers=Kurt there.