Clones & doubles (& synthetics & robotoids)

[artemis]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1093844/The-teenager-party-model-career-shes-set-new-Lily-Cole.html

[beatlies]

False, omission-filled, misleading, dishonest propaganda in favor of human cloning at Princeton University. I wonder more and more about lies in the official stories about creating Louis Brown the first test-tube baby, and Dolly, supposedly the first cloned large mammal, a sheep, in Scotland.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfMSU3uK38A


Also relevant here: artificial human insemination by early 1940s (and the first one were these horrific Nazi camp experiments on women and girls?), egg implantation and human cloning by 1960s?

Many think of human artificial insemination as a modern-day technology, but the first successful human artificial insemination in the 1950s was predated by centuries of scientific study and experimentation.

Artificial insemination, the process by which sperm is planted in the female reproductive tract to artificially impregnate the female, began in the lab and was first tested on animals. Modern techniques used in human artificial insemination were first used on cattle by dairy farmers wishing to improve milk production by impregnating cows with the sperm of bulls with preferable genetic traits.

Unofficial history claims that crude attempts to artificially inseminate Juana, the wife of King Henry IV of Castile in the 1400s, was an early endeavor to artificially impregnate an infertile couple.

Milestones in the History of Human Artificial Insemination

1790 – John Hunter first reports artificial insemination in medical literature.
1899 – Efforts begin in Russia to develop practical methods for human artificial insemination.
1909 – Human artificial insemination grows more controversial. The Catholic Church objects to all forms of artificial insemination.
1939 – The first animal, a rabbit, is conceived by artificial insemination.
Mid 1940s – Artificial insemination becomes an establish industry. In Nazi Germany, doctors performed artificial insemination experiments on Jews, gypsies and concentration camp internees.
1949 – Scientists develop improved methods of freezing and thawing sperm.
1950 – Cornell University scientists discover that antibiotics can be added to the sperm solution in artificial insemination processes.
1953 – the first successful pregnancy from artificial insemination of frozen sperm is reported.
1970s – The sperm bank industry is developed and aritificial insemination becomes commercialized.

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Humans 'easier to clone than sheep or mice'

By Steve Connor Science Editor
Wednesday, 15 August 2001


Humans could be easier to clone than sheep, cattle or mice, according to scientists who have found that a crucial technical hurdle to the procedure does not exist for people.


Humans could be easier to clone than sheep, cattle or mice, according to scientists who have found that a crucial technical hurdle to the procedure does not exist for people.

One of the biggest arguments against human cloning is that it would be too risky to attempt, but a study by a team of scientists in the United States has shown that these fears could be overstated.

The researchers found that, unlike sheep, cattle, pigs and mice, where cloning results in a high number of foetal deformities and birth defects, humans possess an unusual genetic trait that mostly protects them from this risk.

The findings, which are published today in the journal Human Molecular Genetics, could help to undermine the arguments of critics of human cloning, who say that the procedure is far too unsafe given the high proportion of cloned animals that are born defective.

Keith Killian, a member of the team from Duke University Medical Center in Durham, North Carolina, said: "This is the first concrete genetic data showing that the cloning process could be less complicated in humans than in sheep."

The work centred on a gene for a protein called insulin-like growth factor 2 receptor (IGF2R), which is known to be critical for the growth and normal development of an embryo in a womb.

Cloned sheep and cows are known to suffer from "large offspring syndrome", where foetuses grow far bigger than normal, resulting in a high proportion of stillbirths and other developmental abnormalities.

Scientists believe that this happens because the IGF2R gene is not functioning. Although sheep, cattle and most other mammals have two copies of this gene, only one of them is switched on. However, in some cloned animals, even this single functioning gene is switched off due to a complicated genetic phenomenon known as imprinting.

However, the Duke University researchers have found, humans and other primates do not share this imprinting trait with other mammals. In man, both copies of the IGF2R gene are switched on, suggesting that all clones would have at least one functioning gene, therefore making it theoretically likely that human cloning would be technically easier and safer.

Dr Killian said: "Only one in 300 sheep embryos takes hold, and up to half of these embryos have large offspring syndrome, which can kill the mother and the foetus. Since humans are not imprinted at IGF2R, then foetal overgrowth would not be predicted to occur if humans were cloned."

Randy Jirtle, another member of the Duke University team, believes that the findings will lend weight to those who believe that human cloning should be allowed to proceed.

"It means that the cloning of humans will be easier – not easy – but easier. The technical issue against it might not even be there. This moves on from whether we can clone people to whether we should clone people," Dr Jirtle said.

He added: "If you ask me whether I want cloning, I don't want to see a mini me because I've got two fine children the old-fashioned way. But it's up to to society to choose."

The Duke University study used data from the Human Genome Project to show that imprinting does not affect the IGF2R receptor gene. The American scientists also analysed genetic data from man's nearest relatives, and discovered that this trait is shared by other primates – but not by other mammals.

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[beatlies]

People & Events
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The First Human Eggs Fertilized in a Laboratory (1944)

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In 1944 a lab technician named Miriam Menkin became the first person to witness the creation of life outside the human body. She had performed the first laboratory fertilization of a human egg. But Menkin would soon be forced to leave the lab she loved, and test tube babies would remain decades away.

Bypassing Blocked Fallopian Tubes

In 1938 John Rock was one of Boston's most prominent doctors, specializing in obstetrics and gynecology. A graduate of Harvard Medical School, devout Catholic, and father of five, Rock believed that children were an essential part of any family and had a long-standing interest in trying to help women have them. He started an infertility clinic at the Free Hospital for Women in 1926. One of Rock's frustrations came in trying to help women who were unable to conceive because of damaged or blocked fallopian tubes. Rock's success rate for tubal reconstructions was just seven percent, and no one else was doing better. When in the 1930s, he heard about the successful fertilization experiments that Harvard scientist Gregory Pincus had performed in rabbits, Rock saw an opportunity to solve this problem. If in vitro fertilization (IVF) could be performed in humans, the fallopian tubes could be bypassed. Rock wrote in an unsigned 1937 New England Journal of Medicine editorial, "What a boon for the barren woman with closed tubes!" The next year he hired Miriam Menkin, who had worked as a lab technician for Pincus, and the two of them set out to see if human IVF was possible.

Lab Experiments

Miriam Menkin had once dreamed of being a doctor herself, but she gave that up to work as a technician and help put her husband through medical school. Skilled and intelligent, she was the ideal candidate for the work. She found microscopic eggs within ovaries that Rock had surgically removed from hysterectomy patients, put the ova in solution, cultured them, added sperm to the eggs in a petri dish, and attempted to achieve fertilization. Menkin worked on the process for nearly six years; she tried to fertilize 138 of the 800 ova gathered during that period, but nothing worked. Menkin fell into a frustrating routine: on Tuesday she would collect eggs from the ovaries, on Wednesday she would add sperm, on Thursday she would pray, and on Friday she would learn the eggs had failed to fertilize.

Success
Then, in February 1944, Rock and Menkin's prayers were answered. She let the sperm in the petri dish stay in contact with the egg for much longer than usual. To her astonishment, this time the egg was successfully fertilized and Menkin witnessed the first conception ever to occur outside the human body. She repeated the experiment successfully three times between February and April, and photographed the fertilized eggs. When Rock and Menkin's findings were published, they caused an instant sensation.

Unfulfilled Promise [did they just go underground in to the world of Pentagon/intelligence "black ops"?]
Rock and Menkin only let their fertilized eggs develop for a couple of days, and they made no attempt to transplant the eggs back into a woman's body. Still, their discoveries held great future promise -- a promise that in their case would go sadly unrealized. Menkin's husband lost his job, and she was forced to move with him to North Carolina. In a 1949 missive, Rock described two eggs lost and wrote, "We need you badly." Besieged by letters from infertile women who had heard of his experiments, Rock wrote back but was unable to meet their expectations, which had been falsely raised by sensationalist magazine articles. Rock's research interests expanded to include new synthetic hormones and male infertility and he left the IVF field to other doctors like Landrum Shettles. John Rock, did not, however, fade from public view. In the 1950s he teamed up with Pincus and ran the first human tests of the birth control pill. Rock would battle Catholic Church resistance to the Pill for the rest of his days, dying in 1984.

[artemis]

GEORGE W. BUSH&actor LLOYD BRIDGES:
www.imdb.com/media/rm1248368640/nm0000978

HEATH LEDGER, BRIAN KRAUSE, MARK-PAUL GOSSELAAR:
www.imdb.com/media/rm4239695104/nm0005132
www.imdb.com/media/rm2536873216/nm0470182
www.imdb.com/media/rm703960832/nm0004971

[beatlies]

Dec 12, 2008 6:00:35 GMT -5 beatlies said:

False, omission-filled, misleading, dishonest propaganda in favor of human cloning at Princeton University. I wonder more and more about lies in the official stories about creating Louis Brown the first test-tube baby, and Dolly, supposedly the first cloned large mammal, a sheep, in Scotland.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfMSU3uK38A


Also relevant here: artificial human insemination by early 1940s (and the first one were these horrific Nazi camp experiments on women and girls?), egg implantation and human cloning by 1960s?

Many think of human artificial insemination as a modern-day technology, but the first successful human artificial insemination in the 1950s was predated by centuries of scientific study and experimentation.

Artificial insemination, the process by which sperm is planted in the female reproductive tract to artificially impregnate the female, began in the lab and was first tested on animals. Modern techniques used in human artificial insemination were first used on cattle by dairy farmers wishing to improve milk production by impregnating cows with the sperm of bulls with preferable genetic traits.

Unofficial history claims that crude attempts to artificially inseminate Juana, the wife of King Henry IV of Castile in the 1400s, was an early endeavor to artificially impregnate an infertile couple.

Milestones in the History of Human Artificial Insemination

1790 – John Hunter first reports artificial insemination in medical literature.
1899 – Efforts begin in Russia to develop practical methods for human artificial insemination.
1909 – Human artificial insemination grows more controversial. The Catholic Church objects to all forms of artificial insemination.
1939 – The first animal, a rabbit, is conceived by artificial insemination.
Mid 1940s – Artificial insemination becomes an establish industry. In Nazi Germany, doctors performed artificial insemination experiments on Jews, gypsies and concentration camp internees.
1949 – Scientists develop improved methods of freezing and thawing sperm.
1950 – Cornell University scientists discover that antibiotics can be added to the sperm solution in artificial insemination processes.
1953 – the first successful pregnancy from artificial insemination of frozen sperm is reported.
1970s – The sperm bank industry is developed and aritificial insemination becomes commercialized.

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<< Previous 1 2Next >>
Related Links:Artificial Insemination Semen Donation Egg Donor Program

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Humans 'easier to clone than sheep or mice'

By Steve Connor Science Editor
Wednesday, 15 August 2001


Humans could be easier to clone than sheep, cattle or mice, according to scientists who have found that a crucial technical hurdle to the procedure does not exist for people.


Humans could be easier to clone than sheep, cattle or mice, according to scientists who have found that a crucial technical hurdle to the procedure does not exist for people.

One of the biggest arguments against human cloning is that it would be too risky to attempt, but a study by a team of scientists in the United States has shown that these fears could be overstated.

The researchers found that, unlike sheep, cattle, pigs and mice, where cloning results in a high number of foetal deformities and birth defects, humans possess an unusual genetic trait that mostly protects them from this risk.

The findings, which are published today in the journal Human Molecular Genetics, could help to undermine the arguments of critics of human cloning, who say that the procedure is far too unsafe given the high proportion of cloned animals that are born defective.

Keith Killian, a member of the team from Duke University Medical Center in Durham, North Carolina, said: "This is the first concrete genetic data showing that the cloning process could be less complicated in humans than in sheep."

The work centred on a gene for a protein called insulin-like growth factor 2 receptor (IGF2R), which is known to be critical for the growth and normal development of an embryo in a womb.

Cloned sheep and cows are known to suffer from "large offspring syndrome", where foetuses grow far bigger than normal, resulting in a high proportion of stillbirths and other developmental abnormalities.

Scientists believe that this happens because the IGF2R gene is not functioning. Although sheep, cattle and most other mammals have two copies of this gene, only one of them is switched on. However, in some cloned animals, even this single functioning gene is switched off due to a complicated genetic phenomenon known as imprinting.

However, the Duke University researchers have found, humans and other primates do not share this imprinting trait with other mammals. In man, both copies of the IGF2R gene are switched on, suggesting that all clones would have at least one functioning gene, therefore making it theoretically likely that human cloning would be technically easier and safer.

Dr Killian said: "Only one in 300 sheep embryos takes hold, and up to half of these embryos have large offspring syndrome, which can kill the mother and the foetus. Since humans are not imprinted at IGF2R, then foetal overgrowth would not be predicted to occur if humans were cloned."

Randy Jirtle, another member of the Duke University team, believes that the findings will lend weight to those who believe that human cloning should be allowed to proceed.

"It means that the cloning of humans will be easier – not easy – but easier. The technical issue against it might not even be there. This moves on from whether we can clone people to whether we should clone people," Dr Jirtle said.

He added: "If you ask me whether I want cloning, I don't want to see a mini me because I've got two fine children the old-fashioned way. But it's up to to society to choose."

The Duke University study used data from the Human Genome Project to show that imprinting does not affect the IGF2R receptor gene. The American scientists also analysed genetic data from man's nearest relatives, and discovered that this trait is shared by other primates – but not by other mammals.

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She came in (to the world) through the Nazi bathroom window ....

ARTIST: John Lennon
TITLE: Nobody Told Me [1980]
Lyrics and Chords


Everybody's talking and no one says a word
Everybody's making love and no one really cares
There's Nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs

/ A Asus2 D D6D / / A E D Bm /

There's always something happening and nothin' going on
There's always something cooking and nothing in the pot
They're starving back in China ["overpopulation"], so finish what you got

{Refrain}
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Nobody told me there'd be days like these
Strange days indeed, strange days indeed

/ G D Em - / / / C G D D6D C G A - /

Everybody's runnin' and no one makes a move
Well everybody's a winner and nothing left to lose
There's a little yellow idol to the north of Katmandu

Everybody's flying and no one leaves the ground
Well everybody's crying and no one makes a sound
There's a place for us in movies, you just gotta lay around

{Refrain}
... most peculiar mama

Everybody's smoking and no one's getting high
Everybody's flying and never touch the sky
There's UFO's over in New York and I ain't too surprised

{Refrain}


... most peculiar mama .... whoa!

[faulconandsnowjob]

From www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=32&z=2

Pope John Paul:

4. ... The Pope so beloved and respected by many throughout your world was cloned several years ago when it became clear to the dark souls that he was a liability. Seeing that he was determined to hinder their aim of retaining their power over religious believers, they ended the physical life of the light being John Paul. Since his soul elected not to enter the clone, he transitioned to Nirvana and has worked diligently to bring light to all souls on Earth.

5. In accordance with his soul contract and conscious desire, John Paul wanted to lift the people of the world above the confinements of the church dogma that was controlling them through deceit, and that did not serve the purpose of the dark souls who were bent on maintaining the status quo. Consider: What single influence during the past two millennia has been more divisive and has wielded more control over lives than religion, especially the Roman Catholic Church with its strategically established infallibility of its highest authority, the Pope? Although the clones that have been carrying on in the name of the Pope have publicly shown his gentleness, humility and loving spirit, it was to beguile, not to show the way to true spiritual growth. None of the reforms John Paul intended have come to pass. At the time of the downloading of his intelligence, knowledge, and experiential memories into the first clone, the clone was programmed to suppress John Paul’s divine inspiration to allow ancient records hidden in the Vatican to come forth and to share with the world's poor the vast wealth amassed by the church.

From www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=33&z=2

2. Now then, I shall continue by replying to the first question on your list that I see from your notes several writers have asked in various ways, “What’s with Pope Benedict XVI?” Joseph Ratzinger himself said that his reign as Pope will be short, and so it will insofar as “papal infallibility.” I shall return to that. As primary assistant to his predecessor, he knows what the Illuminati within the Vatican did to keep intact the persona of the beloved Pope John Paul while derailing his intent to bring forth the truth of the Roman Catholic hierarchy. So do not expect Pope Benedict to make waves until there is either sufficient light within the Illuminati members or they have been removed from their influential positions. But also, please do not hold Ratzinger’s personal or religious history against him—the former was beyond his control as a youth in Nazi Germany and the latter also was life-preserving....

S: Is Benedict a clone or will he be cloned like John Paul was?

5. MATTHEW: No, he’s not a clone, and it’s unlikely that this would be tried or even desired by those responsible for the cloning of John Paul. The purpose of clones is to take over in case of death by any means so that the person’s powerful influence won’t be interrupted. The new Pope hasn’t the charisma and the love of the masses as did his predecessor, and if he died tomorrow, the Illuminati within the Vatican very likely would be gleeful that this most logical successor to John Paul was quickly out of their way and they could get one of themselves into the papacy. They had insufficient support to manage this at the election where the prevailing choice was Ratzinger because of his closeness to John Paul...

[beatlies]

"Village of the Damned"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiQT5CBf9yc

[beatlies]

At 0:17 and 2:35 it looks like the "X" of an X chromosome in a lab microscope spread.

Dr. Joseph Mengele,of the cloning-like twins and genetic Auschwitz human experiments, in SS uniform, is also briefly flashed (he was still at large and whereabouts unknown at this time, in 1967, probably under U.S./NATO protection) at 1:57, his face superimposed over some Germanic-looking script.

"Hey Jude" = "Hey Jews" ? A warning to realize that the Nazis are secretly continuing their evil work?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArDBGyYbwLY

[faulconandsnowjob]

^ "Jude" does mean "Jew" in German. "Juden" is "Jews."

[beatlies]

Dec 14, 2008 21:51:12 GMT -5 beatlies said:

At 0:17 and 2:35 it looks like the "X" of an X chromosome in a lab microscope spread.

Dr. Joseph Mengele,of the cloning-like twins and genetic Auschwitz human experiments, in SS uniform, is also briefly flashed (he was still at large and whereabouts unknown at this time, in 1967, probably under U.S./NATO protection) at 1:57, his face superimposed over some Germanic-looking script.

"Hey Jude" = "Hey Jews" ? A warning to realize that the Nazis are secretly continuing their evil work?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArDBGyYbwLY

Karotype of human chromosomes. The ones that most look like the letter/Roman numeral "X" are the "F Group" 19 and 20.

[beatlies]

Man meets hitlercloneboy.

The Boys From Brazil (some big Beatles connections in the production of this movie):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VheeCoEU2I&feature=related

[beatlies]

What do you make of this HSBC Bank TV commerCIAhell?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnUt2w9zvU



Note the Nazi-cuddling "wink" that HSBC/CIA/MI6/BND gives here by starting off with "BRAZILIANS" and "BRAZIL" as in escaped-and-free Dr. Mengele twins/cloning living base and The Boys From Brazil. Incredibly vicious and arrogant.

[lucy]

Mengele was not only involved with the cloning and the fascination with twins and multiples, he was also part of the mind control. I don't know if this has been brought up in this forum, but we must look at the whole picture, not only being able to duplicate the genetic structure of another person, but with mind control techniques, possibly being able to duplicate someone's thoughts and memories into another person's mind.

But something that can never be cloned or duplicated in any way, is personality or talent. The true gifted singer/actor/musician/artist is a gift unique to a person's soul. The talent and personality would never be able to be duplicated. It can be imitated through continuous viewing of the person they are trying to mimic, but the finesse cannot be cloned.

That is what my perspective is regarding those we have discussed being "stepforded". They may have some characteristics, but I've seen some of these stars being interviewed and they lack personality and charisma. They just seem like they are speaking answers fed to them electronically, or subliminally.

[lostworld]

Female robots
Actroids, gynoids and fembots



This is what they present to us officially.
The technology is much more advanced and years ahead though. See my previous post on the illuminatis four types of clones.

An actroid at Expo 2005
www.youtube.com/watch?v=091ugdiojEM

An actroid at Expo 2006
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbFFs4DHWys&feature=related


Male ones, pretty scary...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RksP_gAqSh0&feature=related

www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4dwcxiDTcA&feature=related



Gynoid, definition
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynoid

[sabrina]

Hi everyone,

My theory on clones is that their lack of a soul makes them empty vessels for the interdimensional controllers to inhabit so they can live out human life on this plane.

The ritual abuse and MKULTRA stuff that was practiced long ago by bluebloods, people who could host these entities b/c of their DNA frequencies was to force a persons natural soul to fly away, vacate the body, especially during ritual.

That's why the bluebloods ruled us [they had "demonic" power] and they had to intermarry to keep those frequencies pure.

Now the "demons"/entities want to live a full, 3-dimensional life span, not just possess a body for a few hours whose soul has been tortured into leaving.

This is especially important for the "demons"/entities now, as the great shift in consciousness is approaching. That's why the cloning has been acccelerated, and that's why psychopaths/sociopaths are increasing.