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Post by The Mask on Mar 21, 2011 19:58:30 GMT -5
This thread is dedicated to those celebrities that not everyone knows or will recognize. They could be in any field imaginable, from famous authors, doctors and businessmen and businesswomen and doctors to D-level actors and models and musicians. Please post any celeb that you aware that may have been replaced that not everyone would know who they were. I will start off. This person was a famous motivational speaker and coach before he made an appearance in Shallow Hall(2001). He's still what I would consider "less famous" compared to who we've been discussing here on doppels. Tony Robbins in high school  Then he grew up to look like this  (a few years later---look at the size of the chin!)  Now he looks like this  |
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Post by goro on Mar 23, 2011 16:39:54 GMT -5
Do you know if "early" Tony was the physically tall/giant guy the later Tony is/was? He said in interview once, about five to ten years ago I think with Charlie Rose, that he has a tumor on his pituitary gland that caused his giantism and that doctors said it might be too dangerous to remove, so he never had it removed. Giantism of the type he has/had also affects certain features which can become exaggerated. But the high school Tony doesn't look like "new" Tony anyway, in my opinion! And I wouldn't really call him "less famous" since he's a huge name on the self-help/positive thinking guru scale with his own island in Fiji, millions of followers, and a huge media/book/motivational speaking empire! He's definitely "A" list within that world.
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Post by treegenus on Mar 24, 2011 10:15:56 GMT -5
The word is that Tony Robbins is known to have acromegaly which is in fact a known disease that comes from having a pituitary brain tumor and increases bone and tissue in people impacted. But hey, if we run with this ball, <G> maybe that caused the original high school Tony's demise! Looks like the same guy to me though........... We'll have to do some research on other Less Famous and see what we come up with!
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Post by goro on Mar 24, 2011 14:17:23 GMT -5
By the way, Mask, I like the idea of this thread to cover people who might not be super famous actors or singers - it's got me thinking about lots of other potential replacements, including people who are just "tops" in their particular industries, not necessarily in the media. And also C and D list celebs.
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Post by goro on Mar 24, 2011 17:08:28 GMT -5
Here are some industries I think we should be looking at: the billionaire/ Fortune 500 club, not all of whom are "famous" in the usual sense but who obviously control a huge amount of the world's resources - we've already explored Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, but what about Michael Dell, Ted Turner, Sam Zell, Rupert Murdoch?
Also in the self-help/positive thinking/new Age world: Shirley MacClaine; Sylvia Browne; Wayne Dyer; Joe Vitale.
In the science and invention world, Freeman Dyson and his less famous but still sorta famous in the "how do we shape the Internet" world daughter, Esther Dyson.
In media/politics and places where that merges: Arianna Huffington. Tina Brown.
These are just a few off the top of my head that might bear examination!
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Post by The Mask on Mar 24, 2011 19:03:05 GMT -5
Regarding Tony Robbins, it's hard for me to believe this boy...  ...grew up to be this man:  Even if you grew enormously, your face would still be very similar. The eyes and eyebrows are nothing alike, along with the nose, jaw, etc. I just don't buy the giantism story. |
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Post by The Mask on Mar 24, 2011 19:20:06 GMT -5
Also in the self-help/positive thinking/new Age world: Shirley MacClaine; Sylvia Browne; Wayne Dyer; Joe Vitale. Wayne Dyer? No problem... Well, when I first researched this, I expected to find nothing. But now, after viewing these photos, I am shocked! Wayne Dyer in the 70's  ...in the 80's   ...in the 90's   ..as of late   |
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Post by beatlies on Mar 25, 2011 4:25:46 GMT -5
Dr. Wayne Dyer:
going by the photo set in above post, I say:
1980s maybe still the same guy.
1990s imposter replaCIAment
Current: maybe another imposter replacement, different from the 1990s one.
About famous writers, can we please inspect at some point, whenever that may be:
Stephen King
Tom Wolfe
Tom Clancy
Norman Mailer
Joan Didion
Israel Horovitz (playwright and screenwriter, friend of Vaclav Havel and Al Pacino, father to replaCIAed-Adam Horovitz of the Beastie Boys)
J.D. Salinger
Norman Podhoretz
Joyce Maynard
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Post by goro on Mar 25, 2011 9:57:09 GMT -5
Re; Wayne Dyer - there was a very definite point, I think around the mid-1990's, where he went all "Eastern" and was suddenly all into some Indian swami --- ditched the latest wife around that time, too, I believe -- at that point the guy had TEN children -- he left that one wife for his psychic who was all into the Eastern stuff. Was he replaced then or before? Not sure. The newer guy/s don't seem to have the "former military guy who served in the Navy" vibe to me. I saw one of the Dyers two times in person and he had a calming, rather hypnotic presence, but he gets paid to give the same speech over and over again because when I saw him a couple of years later while he was promoting a newer book he pretty much said all the same things in his presentation. Audience was primarily middle-aged female, of course.
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Post by goro on Mar 25, 2011 9:58:26 GMT -5
Regarding Tony Robbins, it's hard for me to believe this boy... ...grew up to be this man: Even if you grew enormously, your face would still be very similar. The eyes and eyebrows are nothing alike, along with the nose, jaw, etc. I just don't buy the giantism story. That's a great childhood photo. You're right, its looks absolutely nothing liek Fony. I still think the newer Fony has giantism, though, because of certain distinguishing features that are common with people with that problem. Doesn't mean that the "original" had it, though. Maybe just the replacement does. |
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Post by lucy on Mar 26, 2011 9:03:47 GMT -5
That is not the same Tony Robbins. But it does have me thinking what the Mask talks about being replaced before fame. If this makes any sense...but perhaps someone has a good idea, or a certain talent and seeks to make this known, The powers that be take these ideas, images and talents and either uses mind control on a person, or uses a replacement to take the image and idea to become famous.
How many of these famous, and infamous, and notorious people were replaced before fame???
We could research and consider any wealthy Illuminist, like the Rothchilds, Rockefellers, or other such bloodlines and possibly have replacements in there as well....
I'm sure that not all descendants of Illuminati bloodlines were compliant with the "plan".
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Post by goro on Mar 28, 2011 14:48:49 GMT -5
That is not the same Tony Robbins. But it does have me thinking what the Mask talks about being replaced before fame. If this makes any sense...but perhaps someone has a good idea, or a certain talent and seeks to make this known, The powers that be take these ideas, images and talents and either uses mind control on a person, or uses a replacement to take the image and idea to become famous. How many of these famous, and infamous, and notorious people were replaced before fame??? We could research and consider any wealthy Illuminist, like the Rothchilds, Rockefellers, or other such bloodlines and possibly have replacements in there as well.... I'm sure that not all descendants of Illuminati bloodlines were compliant with the "plan". It IS fascinating how so many replacements seem to happen before the person ever gets famous, often in childhood or late teens. What is it about the originals that makes them get "marked" for future fame? Something in the original's DNA that can somehow be exploited while implementing the replacement somehow? I don't know how that would work, though. I can see taking a psychically strong or gifted child and trying to "turn" them and channel their energies - but that would still require the original to be around, you would think. But maybe there is some kind of "branding" that happens- something special about that person that can be better controlled in a replacement, yet duplicated somehow in that replacement. (Maybe that is where cloning comes in.) I agree that surely MANY children or other relatives of Illuminati/controller families MUST have decided not to go along with the plan....I am reminded of a story I read somewhere (probably on a conspiracy type site) of someone who was trying to talk about his or her highly-connected family and how he or she disagreed with that family's morals and plundering the world's resources, but this person also talked about what it's like to grow up in these families. You'd think children of these families would be wealthy, but they're not, really. This person talked about how since all the family money is in trusts and tightly monitored financial instruments, and there are family trustees and advisors tasked with doling out money to the kids, what happens it that the kids are told "You're going to such and such private school. You will have a small allowance but you have to keep receipts and records of every penny you spend." (Partly for tax purposes.) So this person was at college and even breaking away to try to mail a letter to someone was hard for them because they had to tell their handlers exactly why they bought the stamp, who they mailed a letter to, etc. Tight control from birth to maturity. They are given "jobs" within the family, or the family uses their connections to get them "work" in Hollywood or wherever (like Sophia Coppola suddenly being allowed to direct her own movies.) But the money is still FAMILY money and it's all about preserving and growing the "nut" - that sum of family resources passed down to the future generations. Another aspect is that they are saving and hoarding this money for THEMSELVES in the future sometimes, if you want to go into the theory that a reptilian/hybrid elite person will have their soul injected into one of their own descendents. So Queen Mary, who died a while back, could be coming back as Prince William and Kate's first child, and the money gets put forward so that they can all remain fat and evil and happy indefinitely. Personally, I think there is a tremendous amount of artificial life extension going on in these families - they all live to 100 or so - plus perhaps some dark soul manipulation perfected by the negative ET's and Luciferians where the soul is then guided to come back within the same family tree again. Anyway, I think there is tight control within these families and younger members might find it extremely difficult to go against these families' controllers and overseers and trustees unless they really go off the grid and decide to pretty much starve and go underground into the criminal world. Because I'll be you anything that they get "blacklisted" by their families and prevented from being able to obtain most types of work if they go against the wishes of the family. They are probably threatened within an inch of their lives, told they will be killed or whatever, because they all know a LOT of secrets. PS Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble - I'm multi-tasking projects today! |
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Post by knowglow on Mar 29, 2011 22:13:39 GMT -5
This is a good thread and I really appreciate the post on Wayne Dyer. I was just thinking about how replacement must be going on with high profile people in the new age/truther movement. Those people would be quite useful as there is a significant upsurge in people seeking "enlightenment" and anything useful to explain wtf is going on w/ 2012.
Re Dyer - Intuitively, no way is he the same guy. I've been down the road with most of the best selling "gurus" and I subconsciously tuned him out years ago when I realized he would always have another book, another CD, another something for you to buy. It's like every once in a while they update the model and release a new batch of Dr. Feelgood.
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Post by goro on Mar 30, 2011 13:30:24 GMT -5
This is a good thread and I really appreciate the post on Wayne Dyer. I was just thinking about how replacement must be going on with high profile people in the new age/truther movement. Those people would be quite useful as there is a significant upsurge in people seeking "enlightenment" and anything useful to explain wtf is going on w/ 2012. Re Dyer - Intuitively, no way is he the same guy. I've been down the road with most of the best selling "gurus" and I subconsciously tuned him out years ago when I realized he would always have another book, another CD, another something for you to buy. It's like every once in a while they update the model and release a new batch of Dr. Feelgood. Well said! I liked the "early" Dyer and intuitively have also tuned out his new stuff although I did go to two of his presentations to try to check him out in person. I'm no expert at NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) or other hypnotic techniques used to lull crowds, but he is definitely doing something like that in his live speeches. He says all this pretty stuff and punctuates his points with a few funny stories about his kids (but tells the same stories year after year) and yet afterwards you realize you were hypnotized as an audience member and he didn't actually SAY ANYTHING. I forget - has the Alex Jones/Bill Hicks switcheroo been covered here? Or am I mixing that with other boards? Bill Hicks the comedian who "died" very young looks a lot like the Alex Jones of conspiracy fame. A tiny bit of surgery would have probably done the trick and vocally they are not dissimilar. |
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Post by artemis on Mar 30, 2011 13:34:39 GMT -5
Yeah, Jones/Hicks was mentioned randomly on this forum several times.
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(a few years later---look at the size of the chin!)
