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Feb 21, 2012 18:12:06 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Feb 21, 2012 18:12:06 GMT -5
There was a book/reports about JFK being seen at literary/hollywood elite parties in NYC a year after the assassination (with Truman Capote, for example). See the book T heJFK Reader (1993) which has a mention and brief discussion of this fake, staged-assassination report/theory. Another of JFK's hollywood mistresses/slaves was Angie Dickinson (later the star of tv series "Police Woman"), by the way. Farilyn Fonroe is the netter know one (shared by JFK and RFK). The book claiming that JFK survived (the one killed in the limo was Dallas police officer J.D. Tippit, who was impersonating JFK) and was seen at Truman Capote's birthday party a year later was authored by a California swimming pool engineer named George C. Thomson and is very difficult to find. Hmm....maybe George C. Thomson was right. The JFK assassination was fake, and JFK and Jackie, or the CIActors who had been playing them, staged a political comeback as USA President and First Lady in 1976: www.wellaware1.com/cointelpro/actors/kennedy1000.jpgwww.wellaware1.com/cointelpro/actors/kennedy1000.jpg[/img]www.wellaware1.comOpinons?
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Feb 23, 2012 17:00:22 GMT -5
Post by treegenus on Feb 23, 2012 17:00:22 GMT -5
EXTREMELY interesting research by Ed Chiarini - dallasgoldbug - at Wellaware1! Especially his 43:06 video on David Icke but that's for another topic here which can be reposted, I guess.
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Feb 25, 2012 2:48:56 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Feb 25, 2012 2:48:56 GMT -5
I'd like to get some ear comparisons on:
1930s JFK
1940s JFK
1950s JFK
1960s JFK
Remember, Joe Kennedy was: Irish-Catholic, pro-Nazi US ambassador to Great Britain
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Liquor business titan and importer with dabbling in bootlegging/drugs-running/gangster activities
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Father of Harvard-attending brood
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Father of Joe Kennedy Jr. married to a young (Anglican) lady of the English aristocracy, killed in the Pacific in World War Two.
and perhaps most importantly,
a Hollywood movie mogul with many actors and actresses under his domination! See also JFK's palling around with Peter Lawford, Angie Dickinson, Farilyn Fonroe etc......
Young Movie Star-like JFK was the first Show BusCIAneSS US president, after all.
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Feb 25, 2012 19:21:08 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Feb 25, 2012 19:21:08 GMT -5
As I posted earlier, I do believe the "JFK assassination" was faked and I just posted some material on the Oswald thread regarding my feeling that Oswald's shooting was fake as well. I think it's easier to see that the Oswald incident was fake and it servers to demonstrate the purpose of the media at that time to fool the public. Oswald post is here: doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=research&thread=130&page=5#16172As for JFK, there is compelling evidence that the famous Zapruder film was significantly altered as shown here: The Zapruder film is the only known photographic record showing the actual shooting. And, it may well be that the RFK and MLK alleged assassinations were faked as well.
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Feb 26, 2012 3:38:48 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Feb 26, 2012 3:38:48 GMT -5
As I posted earlier, I do believe the "JFK assassination" was faked and I just posted some material on the Oswald thread regarding my feeling that Oswald's shooting was fake as well. I think it's easier to see that the Oswald incident was fake and it servers to demonstrate the purpose of the media at that time to fool the public. Oswald post is here: doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=research&thread=130&page=5#16172As for JFK, there is compelling evidence that the famous Zapruder film was significantly altered as shown here: The Zapruder film is the only known photographic record showing the actual shooting. And, it may well be that the RFK and MLK alleged assassinations were faked as well. Thread on this in the "Let's Roll 911" Forum: letsrollforums.com/jfk-murder-staged-event-t23127.html
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Feb 26, 2012 15:48:40 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Feb 26, 2012 15:48:40 GMT -5
If they cloned celebrities, it wouldn't be a stretch that JFK was cloned as well, and the clone was the staged event in Dallas.
There was someplace I had read that Dealey Plaza or the area therein was the site of a Masonic temple, or something to the effect of Masonic numerology. Whether it was an imposter who as assassinated or the real deal, it signified the end of an era that they called Camelot. Why they created this mythological idealism around Kennedys, I not quite sure, just trying to make a filthy rich family look "good" or what. But it's such a pathetic background if you ask me. It's been a while since I've read any of Fritz Springmeier's Satanic Bloodlines...and how the Kennedy's figured into that "vein"....but Old Joe was such a peculiar icon. Was he really that clever, or was he just some mutant they wanted to make an example of?
To think of any of the offspring of Old Joe and Rose....seems like a very strange play acted out.
But while mixing some names in and among those who were around KEnnedys like Marilyn, Peter Lawford...and other such members of the RAT Pack, most namely, Frank Sinatra....who was in the original "Manchurian Candidate"...I happened on that film when he was "handling" the guy ready to assassinate someone by using playing cards to program him....Gee, could it be that was what Frank was all about?
Talk about 6 degrees of separation....there are so many connections to Kennedys...it's really sickening when you think about it.
The "killing of the king of Camelot"....again, making an icon out of someone through their hype and mass manipulations....
Really? Great political leaders? or just great acting puppets of the Illuminati? Hmmmm
Were any of the Kennedys any great mind or leader or thinker? Just images of manipulators if you ask me.
If it weren't this particularly strange crew or some other such crew....it would have been the same programming and manipulating.
At this point in time, I'm inclined to think that most of the "leaders" we have been conditioned to think were great minds or great leaders were not really either...but just the historical account to make it appear that way.
Not saying that somewhere along the line there may have been an actual great mind or leader in the vast cast of puppets, but most likely, most of them were just programmed puppets. The "shadow" people know...and they were/are the puppetmasters.
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Feb 27, 2012 6:52:47 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Feb 27, 2012 6:52:47 GMT -5
Thanks. I hadn't seen that. It's very similar to my post. At this point in time, I'm inclined to think that most of the "leaders" we have been conditioned to think were great minds or great leaders were not really either...but just the historical account to make it appear that way. Not saying that somewhere along the line there may have been an actual great mind or leader in the vast cast of puppets, but most likely, most of them were just programmed puppets. The "shadow" people know...and they were/are the puppetmasters. Yes, I think this is especially true with JFK. And, he played a major role in the "Cuban Missile Crisis" which was most likely a hoax as well.
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Feb 28, 2012 18:41:37 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Feb 28, 2012 18:41:37 GMT -5
The entire Kennedy mythology seems like the stuff of fiction.
When the men were too busy having sex with housekeepers, mind slaves and whatever else had a skirt.....it's hard to think any of those "political figures" had the time to read "laws"...someone was telling them what's going on and what to say and what to do.
Again, their own handlers were doing all of the speech writing and other such stuff.
I agree, the Cuban Missile "Crisis" was just a staged event to manipulate the masses. In all actuality, Cuba was probably a "non integrating" nation that the Illuminists were trying to get part of their new world system...
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Mar 6, 2012 11:24:24 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Mar 6, 2012 11:24:24 GMT -5
I was reading some material online from the Fritz Springmeier book 13 Satanic Bloodlines...Illuminati families...and read about the Kennedys and a portion said that JFK didn't have a very high IQ, did poorly in school as well as the myth about his heroism with PT 109....all a pile of crap....
Not really surprising. It's something to consider about political figures, or even other famous people, the more hype there is about someone and the more we're told how popular they are or how many books, or records or how high grossing their films supposedly are...BEWARE....they are not what they are presented to be.
I say think opposite. The more they talk about great leadership, or intelligence or such about Kennedy and his "Camelot"...I say he was just a puppet and someone else pulled the strings. He wasn't this great leader...but the system wanted the people to believe in someone and they used the image of JFK to be this wonderful "king".
Now the questions I address is this...if JFK was really in that car and it was real that his brains were blown out....he was used in a great sacrifice for all the world to see.....
Or...was it someone who looked like JFK and was used as a sacrifice for all the world to think it was JFK who was killed and the end of "Camelot" the mythological era of this president....
Or...was it a fake film of someone supposedly getting their brains blown out??? Like a Hellywood film and this staged footage was used in documentaries and such to have people think that was what happened....
Unless you were actually there at the time....how do we know what actually went down? Even if you took "eyewitnesses" to this event and asked them things, how long has it been...and their memories affected?
So many questions ....
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Apr 20, 2012 4:58:17 GMT -5
Post by artemis on Apr 20, 2012 4:58:17 GMT -5
"Book claims JFK's mistress was assassinated by the CIA 'because she knew too much about his assassination'
The suspicious death of one of President John F. Kennedy's mistresses just months after his death has sparked numerous conspiracy theories. The latest version posits that socialite Mary Pinchot Meyer, a beautiful divorcee who was close friends with the Kennedys and is widely known for having a lengthy affair with the playboy President, was shot in a cover-up operation by the CIA. A new book alleges that, in her preoccupation with her lover's assassination and ensuing personal investigation, she may have gotten so close to the 'truth' that the CIA found her to be a threat. As a result, agency operatives staged a shooting to make it look like she died due to a sexual assault that turned violent. Whether or not the theory is true, there are a number of questionable components to the story of the months leading up to her death on October 12, 1964. Her ex-husband, Cord Meyer, was a CIA agent himself and the couple were card-carrying members of Georgetown's starry social set, which included then-Senator John F. Kennedy and his wife Jacqueline. The couples became close friends, along with Mary's sister Antoinette (who went by Tony) and her husband Ben Bradlee, who was a bureau chief for Newsweek but later went on to be the managing editor of The Washington Post. Another couple that they spent time with was Mary's Vassar classmate Cicely d'Autremont and her husband James Angleton, who was the chief of the counter surveillance for the CIA. A book by Peter Janney, called Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Their Vision of World Peace, the author claims that the the socialite would often bring marijuana and LSD to her trysts with the President. During their conversations while on these hallucinogens, Ms Pinchot Meyer reportedly tried to appeal to Mr Kennedy's pacifist nature and urged him to seek peaceful solutions to such worldwide crises like the Cold War and the Cuban missile crisis. At the time, LSD was not illegal, and many, including Harvard professor Timothy Leary, advocated its use because they believed it helped people expand their knowledge base. Mr Janney's book is not the first to draw conclusions between Ms Pinchot Meyer's friendship with Mr Leary and her intentions with her relationship with Mr Kennedy. He goes on to say that she was later murdered by the CIA, who he believes organized the assassination of the President in an effort to stop him from preventing violent escalation that they wanted in the Cold War. Though The Huffington Post thought that the book rested largely on substantial assumptions, these theories have been in existence for some time. One question lies in the existence- and retrieval- of her diary that included writings about her affair with President Kennedy. Within a day of her murder, Mr Bradlee went over to her home to find the diary and, though the door was locked, he found Mr Angleton. The CIA spymaster said that he also was looking for the diary but claimed that it was because his wife- Ms Meyer's friend- had asked him to. The whereabouts of the diary today are uncertain. Another clue erring on the side of the conspiracy is that while her ex-husband included a statement of support for the police investigation of her murder, his assistant supposedly said that it was a lie and he did truly believe it to be a standard 'in house rub out'. In an interview shortly before his death in 2001, Mr Meyer said that 'the same sons of b****es that killed John F. Kennedy' killed his ex-wife. Police arrested Robert Crump, a man who was found near the scene of the crime, but had no connection to the murder weapon, which was never found, or any prior history with Ms Meyer." www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132334/Book-claims-JFKs-mistress-assassinated-CIA-wanted-pursue-peaceful-solution-Cold-War.html
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Apr 21, 2012 13:03:47 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Apr 21, 2012 13:03:47 GMT -5
There has been a very long line of people killed that was associated to the "assassination"
Someone was blown away in that car, whether it was JFK or an imposter...that's up for debate...but we know of many deaths connected to this...whether a direct line of people or ones such as this "mistress"....well, there are as many mistresses to JFK as there are grains of sand on the sea...so it seems....
Makes you wonder if his "virility" was also a "myth"....Not saying that he didn't play the field, but the epic proportion of this sex machine who supposedly had a "bad back"....oh the stories told about this man.....
How much myth?
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May 8, 2012 4:51:32 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on May 8, 2012 4:51:32 GMT -5
JFK was a survivor of a Japanese destroyer (accidentally?) ramming his PT boat (PT 109) in the Pacific Ocean during World War II. Two other crew members were killed in that attack and the PT boat was literally split in half in the collision and explosion.
Perhaps the real John F. Kennedy actually died that day. The ruling circles of the USA, of whom Joseph Kennedy was one, took advantage of the situation to use the JFK identity as a powerful role to be filled by imposters. As they have done on other occasions, with other people.
You can look it up in a wikipedia article. Actually, the whole story sounds to me a bit too "picture perfect made in Hollywood for a future politician and heir to a political dynasty" to me.
"On 1 August, an attack by 18 Japanese bombers struck the base, wrecking PT-117 and sinking PT-164. Two torpedoes were blown off PT-164 and ran erratically around the bay until they ran ashore on the beach without exploding. Despite the loss of two boats and two crewmen, Kennedy's PT-109 and 14 other boats were sent north on a mission through Ferguson Passage to Blackett Strait, after intelligence reports had indicated that five enemy destroyers were scheduled to run that night from Bougainville Island through Blackett Strait to Vila, on the southern tip of Kolombangara Island.[3] In the PT attack that followed, 15 boats loaded with 60 torpedoes counted only a few observed explosions.[6] However, of the thirty torpedoes fired by PT boats from the four divisions not a single hit was scored.[7] Many of the torpedoes exploded prematurely or ran at the wrong depth. The boats were ordered to return when their torpedoes were expended, but the boats with radar shot their torpedoes first. When they left, remaining boats, such as PT-109, were left without radar, and were not notified that other boats had already engaged the enemy.[8]
PT-109, with PT-162 and PT-169, were ordered to continue patrolling the area in case the enemy ships returned.[9] Around 02:00, on a moonless night, Kennedy's boat was idling on one engine to avoid detection of her wake by Japanese aircraft when[10] the crew realized they were in the path of the Japanese destroyer Amagiri, which was returning to Rabaul from Vila, Kolombangara after offloading supplies and 900 soldiers.[11] Amagiri was traveling at a relatively high speed of between 23 knots (43 km/h) and 40 kt (75 km/h) in order to reach harbor by dawn, when Allied air patrols were likely to appear.
The crew had less than 10 seconds to get the engines up to speed, and were run down by the destroyer on 2 August 1943 in the Blackett Strait between Kolombangara and Arundel in the Solomon Islands near WikiMiniAtlas8‹06Œ44S 156‹54Œ20E / 8.112140‹S 156.905488‹E / -8.112140; 156.905488 (ramming of PT-109).
Conflicting statements have been made as to whether the destroyer captain had spotted and steered towards the boat; author Donovan, who interviewed members of the destroyer crew, believed the collision was not an accident, though other reports suggest the Amagiri's captain never realized what happened until after the fact. Damage to a propeller slowed the destroyer's trip to its home base.[12]
The captain of the Amagiri was Lt. Cmdr. Kohei Hanami. Also aboard was his senior officer, Capt. Katsumori Yamashiro (commander, 11th Destroyer Flotilla), and on a following ship was Capt. Tameichi Hara (Flotilla commander, Destroyer Div. #7), who claimed he noticed the resulting explosive fire after the PT 109 had been rammed, cut in half, and left burning.
PT-109 was cut in two. Seamen Andrew Jackson Kirksey and Harold W. Marney were killed, and two other members of the crew were badly injured. For such a catastrophic collision, explosion, and fire, it was a low loss rate compared to other boats that were hit by shell fire. PT-109 was gravely damaged, with watertight compartments keeping only the forward hull afloat in a sea of flames.
PT-169 launched two torpedoes that missed the destroyer and PT-162's torpedoes failed to fire at all. Both boats then turned away from the scene of the action and returned to base without checking for survivors."
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May 17, 2012 5:13:55 GMT -5
Post by artemis on May 17, 2012 5:13:55 GMT -5
100% she was "offed":
"Kennedy Curse: A Political Family's Troubled Life
The death of Mary Richardson Kennedy is another sad event in the long arc of the Kennedy family's story.
The estranged wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. died on Wednesday, sources confirmed to ABC News. The news site Radar Online cited a source saying that she committed suicide, though the police would not confirm that.
RFK Jr. -- Jack Kennedy's nephew, Bobby Kennedy's son -- had four children with his wife. They filed for divorce two years ago.
"We deeply regret the death of our beloved sister Mary, whose radiant and creative spirit will be sorely missed by those who loved her," Mary Richardson Kennedy's family said in a statement. "Our heart goes out to her children who she loved without reservation. We have no further comment at this time."
Along with political fame and power, tragedy has befallen the Kennedy clan for decades.
Ted Kennedy's death from brain cancer, in August 2009, is still fresh in the American memory. He was the last of four brothers -- Joe, Jack, Bobby and Teddy, all of whom served their country. His passing almost three years ago reminded a mourning country of Camelot's crests and troughs — ascents to the pinnacle of American glory, assassinations, plane and car accidents, legislative accomplishments and obstacles, and family troubles.
They began well before the brothers' ascent to political power. Joseph Kennedy Sr. famously approved a lobotomy, then a rarely used procedure, to be performed on his daughter, Rosemary, in 1941. The surgery was thought to help Rosemary's violent moods. But the procedure didn't go as planned, and Rosemary was left mentally damaged. She died in 2005.
Not long after Rosemary's surgery, Joseph Kennedy Jr. was shot down in World War II, in 1944. Then, in 1948, Kennedy's older sister Kathleen died in a plane crash on a trip to France.
A little over 10 years later, Jack Kennedy ran for president. His youthful, vigorous campaign and presidency filled a nation with hope and promise. His assassination in 1963 sent shockwaves through a country that would take years to heal.
Just a year later, in June 1964, Ted Kennedy was in a plane crash that killed one of his aides, Edward Moss, as Kennedy was running for reelection in the Senate.
In 1968 Robert Kennedy brought the Kennedy charm, youth and idealism to a campaign and captured voters' hearts and minds as he sought the Democratic nomination for president.But in June he was assassinated in a Los Angeles hotel after a campaign event.
The following year, the family faced tragedy and public humiliation, when Ted Kennedy drove his car off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, drowning his 28-year-old female passenger who had worked on RFK's campaign. Kennedy didn't report the accident for almost nine hours and was later charged with a misdemeanor for leaving the scene. He later called his decision "indefensible."
Tragedy did not bypass the next generation. In 1984, David Kennedy, the fourth of Bobby Kennedy's 11 children, died in a drug overdose. Fifteen years later, John Kennedy Jr., affectionately called John-John when he was a young boy and his father was president, died while piloting a small plane; with him was his wife, Carolyn, and his sister-in-law."
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May 17, 2012 14:49:04 GMT -5
Post by artemis on May 17, 2012 14:49:04 GMT -5
"Coroner: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s estranged wife, Mary, died of ‘asphyxiation due to hanging’
Mary Kennedy, the estranged wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., died of "asphyxiation due to hanging," according to the results of an autopsy performed on Thursday.
Mary Kennedy was found dead in her Bedford, N.Y., home on Wednesday. The 52-year-old designer had struggled with alcohol and drug problems.
In 1994, the former Mary Richardson married Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an environmental lawyer and son of the late Sen. Robert F. Kennedy. The couple had four children together. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. filed for divorce in May 2010.
On Wednesday, a spokesperson for Mary Kennedy's family released a statement, saying, "We deeply regret the death of our beloved sister Mary, whose radiant and creative spirit will be sorely missed by those who loved her. Our heart goes out to her children who she loved without reservation. We have no further comment at this time."
And, of course, the case is closed...
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May 19, 2012 12:43:16 GMT -5
Post by artemis on May 19, 2012 12:43:16 GMT -5
"Mary Kennedy Suicide: Robert Kennedy Jr. Opens Up About Late Wife's "Agony"
Darkness has once again befallen the Kennedy family.
As loved ones mourn the shocking death of Mary Kennedy, whose autopsy revealed that she died of asphyxiation due to hanging, her estranged husband, Robert Kennedy Jr., is speaking out about his late wife and the all-too-consuming demons that she battled.
"A lot of times I don't know how she made it through the day," Robert Jr. tells The New York Times. "She was in a lot of agony for a lot of her life."
On Wednesday, Mary, 52, was found hanging inside a barn on the Bedford, N.Y., property she once shared with Robert Jr. and their four children.
The two had been estranged after Robert Jr. filed for divorce in 2010 and closed the book on their 16-year marriage.
That year, she was arrested twice—once for driving while intoxicated and again for driving under the influence of prescription medication. Her license was subsequently suspended, and she was ordered to join an alcohol rehab program.
Robert Jr., who is reportedly dating Suburgatory star Cheryl Hines, tells the Times that he and Mary had been living apart for four years but that their homes were only "a few hundred yards" away from each other.
He also reminisces about first meeting her when she was 14 after she befriended his sister in boarding school, and how the two became romantically involved as adults in the mid-'90s after Robert Jr., who had just divorced his first wife, became newly single.
"Every member of my family, long before I married her, considered her a Kennedy," Robert Jr. says of Mary.
The Times reports that Mary suffered from depression and had previously spoken about suicide. In 2007, per the Westchester Journal News, Robert Jr. reportedly attempted to drive Mary to a hospital to get her psychological help, but she bolted from the car and out toward the road.
Yesterday, the Kennedy family released a statement that sought to rectify the media's portrait of Mary, which they found to be "wholly inconsistent with the sister we knew and the life she, in fact, lived."
"We loved Mary and knew her to be an exceptional mother, sibling and friend to many," the statement said. "We would ask the media to give us a few days to begin processing Mary's tragic death, and to fully understand all the circumstances around it...There will be plenty of time to correct all the inaccuracies and misrepresentations we are seeing in the media. Thank you for your understanding."
The family is planning to hold a private funeral service on Saturday in Bedford, followed by a burial in Hyannisport, Mass., where the Kennedy family compound is located."
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