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JFK
Jun 22, 2010 10:37:46 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Jun 22, 2010 10:37:46 GMT -5
New book asserts that JFK assassination was faked through the use of doubles. The book is heavily criticized and ridiculed (even on conspiracy sites) which means, of course, that it may just be true. I've had a feeling that something like this did happen, i.e., the real JFK was never killed, at least not on that day. It's strictly my own hunch though which is largely based on my reading of Hollywood's representation of the events which I always presume are false and intended to mislead. mygodimhit.com/Unfortunately the book costs $45. I will look for a used copy. Another thought on this - The book may be an intentional red herring written to position the idea of a fake assassination, doubles, etc. as ridiculous. This would suggest some worry by TPTB that the doppelganger concept may increase in popularity with the public.
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JFK
Jun 22, 2010 13:48:34 GMT -5
Post by artemis on Jun 22, 2010 13:48:34 GMT -5
Wooohooooo! Yessss! Finally someone on the same wave length with me. First I read that on TKIN forum and be sure I was baffled. I said it on that wicked Icke forum, on PID MISS HIM too, and here of course, but no feedback. Now I rejoice, believe me! Its mind boggling indeed and one can lose himself in this maze. How can smb tell when we dealt with the real thing and when we dealth with the double? What if the double wasnt used only on that fatidic day of November 22? JFK knew a lot and intended to reveal much to the public but then he was "killed". Why? For distraction of the masses? Then he is kept alive? It doesnt make sense somehow. Nonetheless he always remains one of my fave political figures.
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JFK
Jun 22, 2010 23:49:21 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Jun 22, 2010 23:49:21 GMT -5
Well, I have a viewpoint on this that many will probably reject and might also piss off some people but I will tell it.
If they want to get rid of someone, they just get rid of him -- usually with no or few witnesses and often as an "accident" or "suicide." When something is done in front of millions of people it is a psyop. It is done to create an effect on the masses. They would never do an actual hit with such a complex, risky scenario in front of so many witnesses. The JFK "assassination" was not a hit -- it was a psyop. It was designed to cause shock in the American people and it succeeded. It had nothing to do with eliminating anyone which is why I believe they didn't kill JFK, at least not on that day in Dallas.
Following the event in Dallas major USA gun control legislation was passed and has continued to be passed ever since. Gun laws were very, very different before that event. I suspect that this was the major reason for the "assassination" which was likely planned well in advance of his election and I believe the other proposed reasons that are frequently tossed around are likely red herrings. I know this reason disappoints a lot of people but this is the biggest change in America that was ushered in by the JFK "assassination" psyop and it is a major point on their agenda.
I also suspect that JFK was not the man he was made out to be and that many people believe him to be. I think that the JFK persona was a media creation and was pure fiction as was Jackie's. I think his true personality was quite different from the public image. I don't think he was viewed as a threat to the PTB or that he was going to reveal anything, etc. I think his presidency was a scam from beginning to end. Most likely a Tavistock creation that pushed all the right buttons at all the right times on all the right issues. Hollywood, as always, helped this image along immensely. It was all done to create maximum shock at his later "assassination."
I know that viewpoint offends a lot of people but I do think it's at least closer to the truth than any other idea I've heard about the JFK assassination.
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JFK
Jun 23, 2010 11:47:21 GMT -5
Post by treegenus on Jun 23, 2010 11:47:21 GMT -5
And then there's also this reason! On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110 (see below), was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority:
'to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the treasury....'
Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to all future presidents not to interfere with the private Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money."
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11110: RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY (By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows...)
JOHN F KENNEDY vs THE FEDERAL RESERVE (five months after disempowering the private, foreign-owned Federal Reserve Bank, JFK was assassinated).
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JFK
Jun 23, 2010 13:22:05 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Jun 23, 2010 13:22:05 GMT -5
^ I know that many people believe that explanation or something similar.
I'm not one of them.
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JFK
Jun 23, 2010 14:08:55 GMT -5
Post by artemis on Jun 23, 2010 14:08:55 GMT -5
Well, I have a viewpoint on this that many will probably reject and might also piss off some people but I will tell it. If they want to get rid of someone, they just get rid of him -- usually with no or few witnesses and often as an "accident" or "suicide." When something is done in front of millions of people it is a psyop. It is done to create an effect on the masses. They would never do an actual hit with such a complex, risky scenario in front of so many witnesses. The JFK "assassination" was not a hit -- it was a psyop. It was designed to cause shock in the American people and it succeeded. It had nothing to do with eliminating anyone which is why I believe they didn't kill JFK, at least not on that day in Dallas. Following the event in Dallas major USA gun control legislation was passed and has continued to be passed ever since. Gun laws were very, very different before that event. I suspect that this was the major reason for the "assassination" which was likely planned well in advance of his election and I believe the other proposed reasons that are frequently tossed around are likely red herrings. I know this reason disappoints a lot of people but this is the biggest change in America that was ushered in by the JFK "assassination" psyop and it is a major point on their agenda. I also suspect that JFK was not the man he was made out to be and that many people believe him to be. I think that the JFK persona was a media creation and was pure fiction as was Jackie's. I think his true personality was quite different from the public image. I don't think he was viewed as a threat to the PTB or that he was going to reveal anything, etc. I think his presidency was a scam from beginning to end. Most likely a Tavistock creation that pushed all the right buttons at all the right times on all the right issues. Hollywood, as always, helped this image along immensely. It was all done to create maximum shock at his later "assassination." I know that viewpoint offends a lot of people but I do think it's at least closer to the truth than any other idea I've heard about the JFK assassination. Im not pissed off in any way, coz much of what u say makes sense. Btw if u can read that book about his "assasination", let me know. As for him and/or Jackie being some media creations, I dont buy it 100%. No reason to do that (for me). There must have been smth about him, everything is so damm contorted. Nor that thing with "none or few witnesses" when it comes to things like these. "They" do it any way they can and they show it daily.
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JFK
Jun 23, 2010 18:49:13 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Jun 23, 2010 18:49:13 GMT -5
^ Well, he had good taste in sex slaves. I'll give him that.  And, yes, if I find that book I will give a report.
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JFK
Jun 27, 2010 18:56:32 GMT -5
Post by The Mask on Jun 27, 2010 18:56:32 GMT -5
Another thought on this - The book may be an intentional red herring written to position the idea of a fake assassination, doubles, etc. as ridiculous. This would suggest some worry by TPTB that the doppelganger concept may increase in popularity with the public. This seems plausible to me. Don't mean to be negative but I could see it being the reason. But then again perhaps there are not enough people on the internet discussing doubles, except for us and a few other PID forums, to make them wanna do something like that so early in the game. Either way, it's a good post.
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JFK
Jun 29, 2010 9:43:09 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Jun 29, 2010 9:43:09 GMT -5
^ Agreed that it doesn't seem likely due to so few being aware of it at this time.
But, then again -- there are threads regarding this topic on the DI forum with many hits and much debunking effort by trolls/shills. And, the PTB do seem to pay attention to that forum in general.
Planting a true-but-laughably-unsupported "theory" early in the game is one of their methods. The public then associates any subsequent discussion on the topic with that first silliness and dismisses it without further inspection. It becomes much easier to "debunk" thereafter. Just point to the silly book and tell them it's all based on that and the lazy public buys it. For this to work most effectively it's important to do it before many people become aware of it.
I believe they also did that with PID, for example, and with other scams.
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JFK
Jun 29, 2010 10:02:03 GMT -5
Post by artemis on Jun 29, 2010 10:02:03 GMT -5
Yes, 2 threads on DI, both named pretty similar, looks like kindergarten stuff, really. I posted the link to "My god I'm hit" but, no feedback. Given the "environment", I dont expect any... Hey, its Icke forum, lol!
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JFK
Jul 5, 2010 11:48:54 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Jul 5, 2010 11:48:54 GMT -5
I do think the image of Camelot was a media hype to try to create some sort of glamor with the Presidency. Before that time, what image did we have a president? Old and about ready to fall over....So we have a younger, what seems to be a healthy looking man, with a wife and small children...so he has this image of this great young leader and the beautiful wife...etc, etc.
Old Joe Kennedy had his sights for his oldest son Joe Jr. to be Pres, but he was killed off during WWII. Old Joe had help from the Mafia, which is part of the Illuminati, and they helped get JFK elected. Why the system allowed Old Joe to have any of his sons in the office, not sure, but it does seem like a staged play...even the death....
Whether it was the real JFK that was killed or a fake, either way, I don't by the one bullet from the 3 rd story building crap.
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JFK
Jul 5, 2010 18:13:38 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Jul 5, 2010 18:13:38 GMT -5
There was a book/reports about JFK being seen at literary/hollywood elite parties in NYC a year after the assassination (with Truman Capote, for example). See the book TheJFK Reader (1993) which has a mention and brief discussion of this fake, staged-assassination report/theory.
Another of JFK's hollywood mistresses/slaves was Angie Dickinson (later the star of tv series "Police Woman"), by the way. Farilyn Fonroe is the netter know one (shared by JFK and RFK).
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JFK
Jul 5, 2010 20:20:28 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Jul 5, 2010 20:20:28 GMT -5
There was a book/reports about JFK being seen at literary/hollywood elite parties in NYC a year after the assassination (with Truman Capote, for example). See the book T heJFK Reader (1993) which has a mention and brief discussion of this fake, staged-assassination report/theory. Thanks for the reference.
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JFK
Oct 9, 2010 18:05:55 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Oct 9, 2010 18:05:55 GMT -5
I do have to wonder how far back were they using clones? If they were able to either have a clone, or a double used to stage his assassination either for masonic symbolism or Illuminati plans just to thwart the Americans out of the haze of the 1950's nuclear family life into the culture that morphed in the mid to late 60's???
I'm not schooled in all of the works of William Shakespeare, but are there any parallels to a king, a double of a king and a death of a king? Just makes me wonder if it was some elaborate acting out of a play??
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JFK
Oct 14, 2010 15:24:52 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Oct 14, 2010 15:24:52 GMT -5
There was a book/reports about JFK being seen at literary/hollywood elite parties in NYC a year after the assassination (with Truman Capote, for example). See the book T heJFK Reader (1993) which has a mention and brief discussion of this fake, staged-assassination report/theory. Another of JFK's hollywood mistresses/slaves was Angie Dickinson (later the star of tv series "Police Woman"), by the way. Farilyn Fonroe is the netter know one (shared by JFK and RFK). The book claiming that JFK survived (the one killed in the limo was Dallas police officer J.D. Tippit, who was impersonating JFK) and was seen at Truman Capote's birthday party a year later was authored by a California swimming pool engineer named George C. Thomson and is very difficult to find.
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