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Post by goro on Apr 6, 2011 19:23:29 GMT -5
Bundy murdered a lot more women. I know a psychic who worked with local police on his case and she went into a nervous breakdown from seeing all that went on with him. He used to hang out at the local college's drama department to hit on the young women studying there. My friend was a drama student there as well as a gifted psychic - she volunteered to work with police on the case. The other thing she picked up on which freaked her out was collusion with local police types - they didn't follow up on the leads she gave them, which later proved to be correct pieces of information as to location, details, etc.
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Post by lucy on Apr 6, 2011 23:15:04 GMT -5
So, could it be that when Ted Bundy was "put to death"...that he was actually becoming the future President?  How do we really know that he was actually executed??? How do we know what they did with the "body"  NOthing would surprise me.
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Post by artemis on Apr 18, 2011 14:49:25 GMT -5
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Post by junebug on Apr 18, 2011 16:02:50 GMT -5
The similarity between Natalie Portman and Keira Knightly is amazing Attachments:
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Post by junebug on Apr 18, 2011 16:03:23 GMT -5
Brad Pitt and Benicio Del Toro Attachments:
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Post by goro on Apr 19, 2011 13:13:30 GMT -5
The similarity between Natalie Portman and Keira Knightly is amazing Yeah, this one is particularly creepy. Natalie being Israeli and Keira being British means that that shared DNA had to hop around a bit! I remember how some of Keira's first movie work was as a stand in for Nataline in the first of the second Star Wars trilogy movies.
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Post by artemis on Apr 19, 2011 14:21:20 GMT -5
I think smb will jump on me but the comparison pics were already posted a few times on other threads here. Or maybe this thread and that about clones and doubles should be merged into one.
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Post by beatlies on Apr 19, 2011 18:49:36 GMT -5
The similarity between Natalie Portman and Keira Knightly is amazing Yeah, this one is particularly creepy. Natalie being Israeli and Keira being British means that that shared DNA had to hop around a bit! I remember how some of Keira's first movie work was as a stand in for Nataline in the first of the second Star Wars trilogy movies. Fatalie and Keira? Fatalie and Feira? Was the original, real Natalie Portman (real name Natalie Herschlag) first replaCIAed while still a child actress?! More products of the NATO covert, cloning "soft power" machine? Enquiring, Anti-nazi minds wanna know!
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Post by artemis on May 14, 2011 14:32:34 GMT -5
"Murder, the Mob and the new Lady Macca: A father accused of Mafia links and claims of violence and extortion
With her understated elegance, independent fortune, aversion to the limelight and no-nonsense job as the vice-president of a large New Jersey trucking company, Nancy Shevell could not be more different from the previous Lady McCartney.
But appearances can be deceptive — particularly in a city as image-obsessed as New York. For today, the Mail can reveal that the 51-year-old New York businesswoman who has just become engaged to Sir Paul McCartney has an extraordinary history of family drama and tragedy.
Not only was her father linked with the Mafia, but her uncle shot himself in the head after his own business — which had links to the Mob — went bankrupt.
If that were not enough, after battling with a serious drug problem for much of his life, Nancy’s only brother died after overdosing on a cocktail of drugs in a Los Angeles hotel room.
Given that Miss Shevell can often be found nowadays sandwiched between the stars on the front row of a Stella McCartney fashion show, she is hardly most people’s idea of a New Jersey haulage operator. As her late brother Jon once observed, she ‘sure doesn’t look like a trucker’, further describing his little sister as a ‘supermodel in a grimy business’.
Her father, Myron ‘Mike’ Shevell, on the other hand, might be described as the quintessential tough East Coast haulage boss — and one who faced allegations of Mob connections at that.
The Shevells have been in trucking since the 1920s, when the Jewish family business transported seafood from the New Jersey coast to New York. Having worked his way up from driving delivery runs, Sir Paul’s future father-in-law started his own business in the 1960s with his brother Daniel.
The firm was based in Elizabeth — the New Jersey town where many of the scenes from the Mafia TV series The Sopranos was filmed.
Within a few years, the pair were running two major haulage companies, one of which had at least one well-known mobster on its payroll. In 1975, U.S. government officials filed fraud charges against the brothers.
The case never went to trial, but they were forced to surrender control of the companies and they later went bankrupt. Daniel’s response was dramatic, to say the least. At just 39, he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head.
His brother Myron resurfaced in the haulage industry in 1977, taking over a struggling company called New England Motor Freight (NEMF).
He turned the business around and within a decade NEMF was one of the biggest haulage firms on America’s East Coast and Mr Shevell, a hard-headed Republican, used his wealth to fund the political aspirations of Nancy’s then husband, New York lawyer Bruce Blakeman.
Mr Blakeman’s ambitions to run for New York mayor came to nothing. But in 1988, when Nancy was in her late 20s, Mr Shevell found himself accused of using his money for rather more insidious purposes.
Following an investigation by the government’s Organised Crime Strike Force, he was accused of colluding with Vincent Gigante, the head of the Genovese family — one of New York’s five main Mafia clans — to take control of his local branch of the Teamsters trade union, which looks after thousands of blue-collar workers.
Vincent ‘the Chin’ Gigante — his nickname came from the Italian pronunciation of his real name, Vincenzo — was regarded as the most powerful mafioso in the U.S. by the early Nineties. But he later earned another nickname, ‘The Oddfather’, by wandering the streets of Greenwich Village in New York for ten years dressed in pyjamas, dressing gown and slippers, muttering incoherently.
But his mental illness was exposed as a fraud after investigators recorded him lucidly planning Mob operations.
It was claimed in a racketeering lawsuit that Mr Shevell made pay-offs to the Genovese mobsters in return for a ‘sweetheart’ deal which allowed his company to operate without abiding by union rules.
This particular Teamsters branch was notorious for being the most corrupt in the U.S. Indeed, it was even run by a mobster — Tony Provenzano, a Mafia hitman who was later jailed for murder and extortion. (Provenzano’s predecessor disappeared — it is believed the Mob murdered him and put his body through a tree shredder.)
Through the union, Provenzano had been connected to two even more famous crooks — the corrupt Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa, who disappeared presumed murdered in 1975, and President Nixon, whom the FBI believes benefited from a £600,000 secret cash fund set up by racketeers within the Teamsters.
Provenzano and Nixon even played golf together. It has since emerged that the U.S. Justice Department believed Nixon intended to use the Teamsters’ cash as hush money for the burglars who broke into Democrat Party offices in the Watergate Hotel.
The 1988 lawsuit claimed Mr Shevell ‘cultivated’ an 11-year ‘corrupt relationship’ with Provenzano and a clutch of other mobsters.
They would not look good on a McCartney wedding guest list. The notorious Mafiosi alleged to have been involved with Shevell Snr included Anthony ‘Fat Tony’ Salerno, Matty ‘The Horse’ Ianniello and Stephen Andretta.
Andretta had, together with Provenzano, been named by the FBI a few years earlier as among those believed to have abducted and murdered Jimmy Hoffa.
Ianniello, who would go on to run the entire Genovese clan after managing its vice operations, was recorded in a wire-tapped conversation suggesting that one of Mr Shevell’s trucking companies, Eastern Freight Ways (which employed Provenzano’s brother, Angelo), was a ‘front’ for the Mob.
‘Yeah, we formed a truck company,’ said Ianniello, referring to Eastern.
The government claimed that Mr Shevell’s ‘aberrant labour practices served as a conspicuously negative example of union corruption within the trucking industry’, and that his company’s racketeering activity with the union ‘tended to exacerbate the extortionate climate of intimidation’.
In the years it was run by Provenzano, drivers and company owners alike were threatened and blackmailed.
Mr Shevell, now 74, later said the lawsuit was settled without any charges of wrongdoing proved against him. However, prosecutors point out that he actually agreed to a deal whereby he was barred for five years from engaging in any union negotiations.
His run-in with the authorities does not appear to have harmed his business excessively in the years that followed. The Shevell Group now owns six trucking companies and employs 5,000 staff. Its business — carrying clothing, nappies, Kleenex tissues and basketballs across the U.S. — is worth more than $400 million a year.
Friends say Nancy Shevell is devoted to her father, particularly following the death of her mother in 1991.
As with Sir Paul — who over the years has had to contend with the early deaths of his mother, his first wife Linda and two fellow Beatles — Nancy has had more than her share of premature bereavements.
The most shattering blow came three years ago when her brother Jon died in the most squalid circumstances.
At 6ft 6in, he had played basketball for his state and professionally in Europe before joining the family company. However, he had a history of drug abuse which saw him spend increasing amounts of time away from his job. It became a compulsion which cost him his life.
On March 3, 2008, the 50-year-old was found dead in his room at the exclusive Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles, where he had been staying for two-and-a-half weeks.
The local coroner’s office confirmed to me this week that his death emerged only when members of his family contacted the hotel after becoming alarmed at not hearing from him. Hotel security forced their way into his room and found him lying across the foot of his bed.
Police discovered a vial of cocaine nearby, and a post-mortem report ruled he had died from ‘multi-drug intoxication’. His system contained not only cocaine but five different painkiller and tranquiliser drugs.
The devastating effect of his addiction and untimely death on his sister Nancy is reflected in the charity which she oversees — the Arlene Walters Shevell Endowment Scholarship Fund, which is named after her mother and provides self-help groups for parents with drug-addicted children, and financial support for those undergoing rehabilitation programmes.
In the same month that Nancy was shattered by the loss of her brother, her lover Paul McCartney was hit by the death of Neil Aspinall — his former band’s road manager and chief confidant, who had been dubbed the ‘fifth Beatle’.
Just as McCartney is said to have bonded with John Lennon over their shared experience of losing their mothers early in life, it seems he was drawn to Shevell (who, like Linda, fought a battle against breast cancer in the mid-1990s) by grief over their respective bereavements.
Friends say McCartney — at the time still in the throes of his divorce from Heather Mills — suggested to Nancy they go on holiday to cheer themselves up.
They flew to the Caribbean island of Antigua, where they rented a £6,000-a-night villa. They behaved like a honeymoon couple, kissing and holding hands.
Though the couple have now sustained their romance for four years, and last week announced their engagement, there is no doubt the death of Nancy’s brother has cast a long shadow over her life in recent times.
While McCartney has admitted experimenting with heroin and cocaine in the past, Nancy is thought to be far too wrapped up in her career ever to have been distracted by drugs. She has said her childhood was defined by her father’s business — the little girl even looked forward to the toy trucks he bought her without fail each holiday.
‘I used to line them up in my room, right next to my Barbies,’ she told a local newspaper.
She and her brother used to accompany their father into work at weekends and play in the truck yards while he checked on the family assets.
‘While other kids would go feed ducks in the park, we would go to our father’s truck terminals … every single weekend,’ she said.
But if her father’s business was lucrative, he refused to lavish money on his children, something Nancy’s wfiancé would no doubt approve of, given that he famously sent his children to state schools.
Though Myron Shevell could no doubt have afforded to pay for a private school and then an Ivy League university, Nancy was sent to the local high school before going on to Arizona State, where she was the only woman to major in transportation.
Although she joined the family business after she graduated, she has recalled how she had to fight for respect in the male-dominated haulage industry.
She claims a group of executives tested her every day during her first year at the family company. Once, she returned fire, questioning why a vice-president was taking someone on during a hiring freeze.
‘He started screaming and yelling at me and threw me out of his office,’ she said.
Then, displaying a steeliness which may have proved as much of a draw for Sir Paul as her beauty, she added: ‘I went right back in and told him I wouldn’t leave the office until I got an answer. I don’t know where he is right now, but I know where I am.’
There is no doubt Paul McCartney has long been drawn to strong women, and there’s no doubt his third wife-to-be — while rich in her own right and a beauty to boot — is going to be more than a match for the former Beatle."
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Post by goro on May 15, 2011 12:23:43 GMT -5
Ha, makes sense. He's marrying a criminal, and we know they're great at keeping secrets. Sounds like a perfect match.
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Post by artemis on May 16, 2011 10:18:14 GMT -5
Hmmm, is/was it the real JOHNNY connected to LIZZIE or FOHNNY? Difficult to answer...
"Johnny Depp's British Royalty Blood: Cousins With Queen Elizabeth?'
He's the current king of Hollywood. And amazing research shows Johnny Depp may have a real royal link – being related to the Queen.
Genealogist Nick Barratt says Pirates of the Caribbean star Johnny shares the same distant blood line as the royal family.
The US actor has the same great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great-grandad (that’s 19 greats) with Her Majesty.
It would make Johnny, 47, and the Queen 20th cousins.
Dr Barratt – a researcher for the BBC’s Who Do You Think You Are? – said: “When I examined Johnny’s history I discovered a likely connection to the royal family.
“I’ve since established the family tree that demonstrates how. You have to go back more than 500 years to reach the point where his ancestors become royal.”
The genealogist traced Johnny’s ancestral family name – Deppes – back to 14th Century French Huguenots living in England.
Dr Barratt then discovered that one family branch are descendants of Sir William Gascoigne and wife Margaret Percy, who lived in Yorkshire in the 15th Century.
Margaret, the daughter of the 3rd Earl of Northumberland, was a direct descendant of King Edward III. The Queen is Edward’s great-granddaughter 17 times over.
Johnny’s royal link relies on an unrecorded marriage in the 1600s between Yorkshireman Richard Denton and Helen Windebank.
It is the only unconfirmed branch of the family tree that leads from Sir William Gascoigne to one of Hollywood’s best-loved stars.
Dr Barratt, editor-in-chief of Your Family History magazine, said: “I believe the balance of probability is that there is indeed a link between Depp and the royals – though I doubt we’ll ever be able to prove it 100 per cent.”
Johnny was born in Owensboro, Kentucky, in 1963. His immediate ancestors were farmers who settled in Virginia in the 1700s and traded with American Indians.
Dr Barratt added: “There are also several junctures where he can claim to have Cherokee blood.”
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Post by artemis on May 16, 2011 10:22:22 GMT -5
"Just call him pop culture's sleuth
When Lady Gaga released her song “Born This Way’’ in February, the music world cried foul. The pop hit sounded too much like Madonna’s “Express Yourself,’’ critics protested. But the Material Girl stayed mum on the issue.
That’s what you do when you’re family.
According to Boston celebrity genealogist Chris Child, who painstakingly pores over documents searching for connections between notable people at the New England Historic Genealogical Society, the two singers share more than a penchant for reinvention: Lady Gaga and Madonna are related.
“They are ninth cousins once removed,’’ Child said with a sly grin.
He presented a handwritten piece of paper, which traced the relations of Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone and Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta back to a French immigrant farming couple who came to Quebec in the 1600s. Born this way, indeed.
“When I saw that Lady Gaga had French Canadian ancestry I thought there might be something there,’’ said Child, who started working at the Newbury Street institution as a 16-year-old intern in 1997.
Child’s interest in genealogy and its pop-culture connections comes at a moment when people can’t seem to get enough of their ancestral past. What was once a hobby for retirees has become downright popular. Harvard’s Henry Louis Gates’s fascination with genealogy has led to popular documentaries on the topic, including one tracing Oprah Winfrey’s family history. The NBC show “Who Do You Think You Are?’’ has uncovered the roots of celebrities such as Sarah Jessica Parker and Ashley Judd. (Both actresses visited the NEHGS with camera crews to plunge into their pasts.) The number of subscribers to Ancestry.com, a website where users can search long lost relatives and create family trees online, is surging.
Dressed in a dark suit with cufflinks and understated glasses, Child, 30, doesn’t look the part of one who spends his days wading through papers of the rich and famous. As a genealogist for the Newbury Street Press, the publication arm of NEHGS, he edits a genetics column and is the go-to guy when members are stuck on a limb of a challenging family tree. His encyclopedic memory and youthful energy combine for some fascinating finds. He’s linked Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, solved the mystery of Abraham Lincoln’s true grandparents and connected Mark Wahlberg to “The House of the Seven Gables’’ author Nathaniel Hawthorne.
“It comes as an extension of my interest with presidents and historical figures and how they relate to current personalities,’’ said the Jamaica Plain resident.
Child first visited the stately NEHGS building as an 11-year-old Boy Scout, and he took to genealogy immediately. “I found it initially overwhelming, but I got into it right away. I knew I had a special skill and could retain the information.’’
Dates, decades, which Mayflower descendants have presidential ties, are all top of mind for Child. If he doesn’t have the answer, he knows which book or database holds the missing piece.
A strong command of history helps when heritage hunting with minimal clues. His knowledge of early New England migration patterns and the prominent families who settled here is significant. “When you are trying to figure it out, it helps to know how people traveled, where they went, how they lived,’’ said Child, who studied history at Drew University in New Jersey.
Child has worked full-time for the society since 2003. When he isn’t editing columns, he’s tracing bloodlines of notable figures to see if there’s an unusual connection. His work immerses him in the Irish famine, the Civil War, the Dust Bowl and, lately, “The Ellen DeGeneres Show,’’ where a chart he created of the host’s family connections was shown on air.
“I’ll work on this at any given time if someone pops into my head,’’ said Child. “We’ll go full force on someone’s ancestry if they are in the news.’’
Like, say, a certain new member of the British royal family. “The Ancestry of Catherine Middleton,’’ written by the late William Addams Reitwiesner and edited by Child, traces the history of Prince William’s new wife and her family. The book has been released in conjunction with the royal wedding.
Contacting British officials, sending fees through the mail, and waiting for documents from overseas took longer than usual. But some of Child’s additional research paid off. Turns out Middleton is fourth cousins with British filmmaker Guy Ritchie, which may explain why Madonna’s ex was present at Westminster Abbey for the April 29 nuptials.
More surprising? The new Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were related before they tied the knot.
A distant connection through Princess Diana’s ancestry links the newlyweds, which is not so unusual in such circles. “Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip are third cousins,’’ Child noted.
Middleton is also related to talk show host DeGeneres, who has become the genealogical equivalent of Kevin Bacon. Child worked on DeGeneres’s genealogy in 2008, when her show contacted the society. Last year DeGeneres gave considerable airtime to the chart Child produced linking her with Halle Berry, Richard Gere, Princess Diana, and others.
Like most skills, tracing kinship back in time is more complex than jumping online. Child spends weeks and sometimes months cross-referencing wills, census records, marriage and death certificates, and visiting town halls for records not available in his databases. Other times, such as if there’s a French Canadian pedigree, Child can “trace a line back 200 years within minutes,’’ thanks to priests in Quebec who indexed all marriages from the 1600s to the 20th century.
The society’s chief executive, D. Brenton Simons, credits Child’s work with breathing new life into a practice that dates back to the 17th century. Early family records were done by needlework or pen and ink calligraphy. “It’s no longer seen as an elitist, old-fashioned pursuit,’’ said Simons, the president of NEHGS. “We’ve made it current and fun and interesting.’’
Child’s genius, says Simons, is almost innate. “He is a world talent. We can throw any genealogical riddle his way.’’
How good is he? “When I’m tracing someone’s ancestry and I come across someone from the 17th century, I’ll say ‘Oh that could be a relative of [President] Obama.’ That’s how my mind works,’’ said Child, who knows that 20,000 immigrants came to America between 1620 to 1640, the same period Obama’s ancestors settled in Barnstable and Haverhill.
“I’ll remember a lot of things about couples from 400 years ago, not so much about things today.’’
The mysteries he uncovers are not gruesome, but they can be unusual. “Sometimes you are debunking a family myth,’’ said Child, who is part sleuth, part historian. Other times, as in the case of a man in the 1880 Census who listed two wives — one as “invalid,’’ the other as “mistress’’ — his findings are better left in the past.
Working on Burlington native Amy Poehler’s family tree, Child found the actress shares bloodlines with “Moby-Dick’’ author Herman Melville and Dick Cheney, who has Roxbury roots. Fodder for a “Parks and Recreation’’ story line, perhaps?
Child’s first love is tracing presidential ties, which led to a link between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Angelina Jolie (they are ninth cousins twice removed). When Scott Brown ran for US senator, Child discovered that Brown and President Obama share kin going back 10 generations.
He’s currently working on family trees for 2012 presidential hopefuls Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann. As for Donald Trump? “Not yet,’’ Child said."
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Post by artemis on May 16, 2011 10:31:37 GMT -5
"All in the family
Mark Wahlberg is the 10th great-grandnephew of John Hathorne (1641-1717), a judge in the Salem witch trials, who was the great-great-grandfather of “The Scarlet Letter’’ author Nathaniel Hawthorne. That makes Hawthorne and Wahlberg fourth cousins, eight times removed.
Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln are third cousins four times removed. Abraham Lincoln is also a half-first cousin, five times removed to actor George Clooney (although Hanks and Clooney are not related).
Bill Gates has distant kinships to Princess Diana, the Bushes, and John Kerry.
Jennifer Aniston is related to John Quincy Adams and the Bush presidents via the Hoar family of Massachusetts.
Playboy founder Hugh Hefner, the late actor Christopher Reeve, and chief justice William Rehnquist are all related to each other through their descent from Mayflower passenger and Plymouth Colony governor William Bradford."
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Post by artemis on May 16, 2011 10:36:07 GMT -5
"The many degrees of Ellen
Ellen DeGeneres is related to Halle Berry (10th cousins once removed via the Van Swearingen family of Maryland).
Halle Berry is related to Mark Wahlberg (11th cousins via the Peabody family of Massachusetts).
Mark Wahlberg is related to Madonna (11th cousins via the Dumay family of Quebec).
Madonna is related to Camilla Parker Bowles (ninth cousins once removed via the Cloutier family of Quebec).
Camilla Parker Bowles is related to Diana, Princess of Wales (seventh cousins via the Keppel family of England).
Diana is related to Tim Robbins (10th cousins via the Thompson Parke family of Connecticut).
Tim Robbins is related to Richard Gere (11th cousins via the Denison family of Connecticut).
Richard Gere is related to Ellen DeGeneres (11th cousins via the Brewster family of Massachusetts)."
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Post by artemis on May 16, 2011 10:42:56 GMT -5
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