Christopher Walken

[GetSmart]

It appears that Christopher Walken may not be the original item, and this not recently but possibly from birth?


His DNA was apparently sourced from the very last Holy Roman Emperor, Franz I of Austri. One can wonder if his cloned origins and possessed and controlled mind brought him to make it his trademark to portray Evil sadistic satanic characters in his movie roles?


Christopher Walken and Franz I of Austria



Remember that we are looking at artists renderings which either show the painter's perception or tend to make one's profile more regular and stately in the case of an engraver who symbolizes the national currency.





We can also notice that in ageing one's soul shows and, just possibly, this is why clones tend to sort of fall apart when ageing? They have no soul to keep them together and dislocate so that even extreme plastic surgery doesn't suffice.

[fauxster]

That's an interesting proposal for why clones tend to fall apart so quickly - b/c there's no soul to hold the bio-electrical system together. I had heard that the rapid aging was attributable to the fact that they speed up the process to make an adult human in a matter of days. However, the lack of a soul could definitely be a part of it.

[GetSmart]

Hi Fauxter,


Good to see you again in the threads. This is, as with any of the other Cloned Stars or Leaders, just a speculative proposition based primarily on a strong physical resemblance between highly visible celebrities and often carrying a bloodline continuum component.


Regarding a Clone's ageing process, I cannot respond to what might occur due to cloning being involved. Most of the clones I believe to have detected in the past, are of what I might term "natural clones" or implanted babies raised by a family with or without their knowledge of this parameter of birth.


Of course, I wasn't around when they were born or grew up, so I cannot vouch for there being any reality to their early history as accounted for by diaries, biographies or witness testimonials. However I find it more likely that earlier clones were at least for the most part "implanted" by a form of immaculate conception (to use biblical terms) or artificial insemination. How? Don't ask me as I cannot reply, only suggesting this a one among the possibilities.


Regarding my observations about ageing, this was not from any knowledge of clones or cloning, but from what I've learned seeing people age more or less gracefully, and noticing how most often their appearance tends to increasingly reflect their character over time. There are homely people with a good nature who become pleasant looking elderly folks, and drop dead gorgeous people with corrupt character who wind up looking like wretches.


While this is not an invariable rule, it does reflect a trend in ageing. For this reason I found it logical to assume that a body without a soul or conscience would just sort of fall apart at the seams. Isn't this what we notice in cloned celebrities when they age? No amount of plastic surgery seems to be able to hold them together.

[The Mask]

I was telling lostworld a few months ago that I felt Christopher Walken had been replaced. It was after seeing the Bond Film A View To A Kill(1985).


Walken recently






Walken in 1985

[GetSmart]

Hi The Mask,

You're quite right that there is something fundamentally different there. But I don't think it was that he was replaced (he might of been of course for all we know). However his face sort of hollowed out as is seldom the case in these days of overly rich nutrition, except for drug addicts. Could he be one? Of course anything of that nature is possible. It could also be that his face has caved in representing his moral structure which offers no support for his facial representation. There's nobody decent inside, so the image of a real person is self erasing.


The younger photo, aside from the fuller head of blond hair, features an empty gaze which became his trademark. He couldn't care who lives or dies. The photo taken more recently shows a similar blank stare, but you can notice that he has witnessed untold horrors, and probably not just those from his movies. He is soulless but still got exposed to some pretty nasty immoral "radiation", enough to make him look as worn out inside as outside.


It is probably entirely unrelated, but I've noticed that some of those cloned who age extremely poorly start to look like Saurians or sort of reptilian? It sounds kooky but they wind up looking more alien than human. Is it because it isn't a human inside?

[The Mask]

I don't want to detract from your main theme here GetSmart, which I think is good, but I will say one more thing about the replacement and that is the voice is different too.


Walken interview







Walken enters scene at 3:33....obvious difference in voice imo.

[artemis]

Guys, u are killing me... Again Im short for words but isnt his forehead a smoking gun? Or it gives that impression coz of the hair?

[fauxster]

In theory, there could be any number of clones being switched in & out.

It is probably entirely unrelated, but I've noticed that some of those cloned who age extremely poorly start to look like Saurians or sort of reptilian? It sounds kooky but they wind up looking more alien than human. Is it because it isn't a human inside?

Could be some soulless clones & some w/ something dark taking up residence...

[fred]

Jan 10, 2010 20:34:23 GMT -5 GetSmart said:

His DNA was apparently sourced from the very last Holy Roman Emperor, Franz I of Austri. One can wonder if his cloned origins and possessed and controlled mind brought him to make it his trademark to portray Evil sadistic satanic characters in his movie roles?

May also explain his interest in running for US President.

[lucy]

He was in "The Deer Hunter" from the 70's, that was the earliest I remember seeing him.

He was also there when Natalie Wood met her untimely death....

[GetSmart]

Hi The Mask,

Thanks for those two video clips. They really do seem like very different individuals, it isn't just the role. The time span being so great between the two footages allows for the possibility that he changed in time. But he really doesn't give out as creepy a vibe in his "new edition".


Fauxter,

You're probably smack on the head of the nail with the multiple replacement suggestion. If there is cloning and replacement of movie actors on a regular basis, you can bet that for a number of reasons, if only to push to the limits the experimentation with repeat switches, they would do it often and not only when absolutely indispensible to their plans.


Fred,

I didn't know he's been candidate! When?

[totalrecall]

Jan 11, 2010 15:52:28 GMT -5 fauxster said:

Could be some soulless clones & some w/ something dark taking up residence...

Bingo! After reading this forum and the Susan Reed educate-yourself.org/vcd/bodysnatchersSusanReed.shtml debacle, I think some of these artificial people are deliberately created to host a dark (most probably reptile) astral possession presence. It would be a nice way to fool us who live in 3D and can't see into the fourth with our floridated third eye (unless we have psychic x-ray eyes). We would never see the difference except judging how well made the clone body was compared to the original by photographs.

The Susan Reed material mentioned that Prince William was to become "one of us" i.e. reptile. This means that they aren't necessarily born reptile. Maybe a hybrid body is created to replace the original for the reptile to be able to operate on this planet in this density. The 4D reptile transfers his astral body or his consciousness into the new 3D hybrid body which has been adapted to house such a negative soul. The shoe must fit the foot so to speak.

Did you see the slit eyes on the new William on the Prince William thread. It could be the angle of the light, but it makes me wonder.