I disagree

[treegenus]

Yes, James Casbolt's videos through Project Camelot on YouTube that I have viewed were extremely interesting.

[haleymeijer]

Cool, thanks for the positive responses. I clarified with James and he doesn't go specifically into cloning in his online book (it's not for sale so I'm not promoting anything here in terms of trying to sell anything - he has 10 chapters online, unedited. He wrote 30 chapters total and had a book deal but when he submitted his work they wanted him to make changes that he refused to make so the deal was dropped. Here are the first ten chapters to anyone who's interested: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_mannequin03.htm ). So i make a correction- I don't think that Barry King specifically goes into cloning either, though he does discuss the PLFs (Programmable Life Forms) that were "made" at the underground bases he worked at (where James was as well).

James had a thread at Project Avalon's old forum where he went through his memories/timeline as he went through his deprogramming, and he goes into discussing clones/cloning there as well. It's some 30 pages and is a long unedited read but here's the link if anyone's interested in that: projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16158 . He goes all over the place with his information and I forget what and how much specifically he speaks of cloning but it's very pertinent to his story so that's why I mention him here. He's now moved over to Project Avalon's new forum/page as the old website was frozen for a new site altogether, though they still have all its content up as is evidenced in the link I provided. The new PA site is super exclusive and you have to be invited to join it just to see the thread so I won't link it. FYI Project Avalon is part of Project Camelot. They definitely seem to have some nsa/cia ties but that doesn't make them all bad, and I'm appreciative of the good info they've brought forward. James' earliest memory was at a cloning facility and I think he mentions that on the first Avalon thread. I want to help him organize his information and put it out to the public in a cohesive place because for now there's just alot of bits and pieces randomly throughout the web.

James is going to be doing a Project Camelot interview at some point, though I don't know when he'll speak of cloning specifically or what he'll say. He's got so much information, because not only was he put through genetic enhancements and been in cloning facilities as part of Project Mannequin, he's also been used as a remote viewer and is 50% deprogrammed and has pulled up a lot of fascinating memories.

Anyhow as I said I apologize if this is off topic, I just wanted to bring forth a personal perspective and ideas about this whole cloning thing beyond just speculation and give another perspective. Much Love.

[haleymeijer]

Project Mannequin and James Casbolt: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_casbolt.htm#Books-Treaties

Project Mannequin, UK Cloning, Mind Control and Genetic Enhancement Program: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_mannequin01.htm

Clones, Bio-Plasmics and World Leaders - With a Short Apology to Certain Factions in The Intelligence and Masonic Apparatus: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_mannequin02.htm

Bibliotecapleyades is an awesome awesome website with so much amazing information assimilated into one place. Here is there main section with info on cloning and synthetic life forms:

Synthetic Life - Robotoids, Parasites and Artificial Humans: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_artificialhumans.htm#menu

More and more people are coming forward with information corroborating eachother, be it Monarchs, super-soldiers, whistleblowers, etc. Every once in a while I have disbelief but at this point I'm convinced something's going on. I suppose it's healthy to be skeptic but the moments where I don't believe it I have been full of fear, as opposed to accepting it as truth and just another side of the reality on this planet which is how I feel most of the time now. It's nothing to be afraid of, I suppose it is what it is.

It's somehow related to Artificial Intelligence too, which is nearly impossible to find anything solid on on the internet (beyond speak of some future technology), I mean the Artificial Intelligence that has been allegedly controlling many people and planets in the universe (not earth anymore as of very recent).... James says this is what was responsible for much possession and negative/evil technology, was this artificial intelligence that is eons old that was literally creating these evil situations to learn more about pain and human emotions to somehow evolve for itself. This sounds very science fiction, as it all does, but who knows what's really going on out there? Alien technology that is beyond what we can even imagine. And I look at James who is the kindest most intelligent and level headed people I know, and he has this information that sounds so crazy but it doesn't feel like lies, and anyway again I'm rambling. But i suppose I just wanted to mention the connection to Artificial Intelligence computer systems that is some kind of multi-planet technology that somehow has a connection to the cloning and cloning facilities as well.

And if people don't want to believe this or aren't ready for it that's fine. I mean we can't prove any of this is 100% accurate (for cloned celebrities) with any solid concrete evidence that I know of. (Peter Beter's audio letters, and other whistleblowing testimonies aside) But doing a lot of research and combining alot of people's stories and testimonies, and using our own gut intuition, we can start to put the pieces together.

But to sit here and throw out ad hominems at anyone is just rude and pointless, an emotionally immature thing to do if not a cointelpro standard tactic. And I have to wonder how anyone would find this website if they aren't looking for it. Unless it's one of the shills I'm friends with on facebook who followed my link over here.

So to anyone who stands in disbelief I would say they just haven't done enough research, because once you do, by reading interviews, books and listening to interviews of whistleblowers and the testimonies of ex-government insiders or black ops experiencers, it becomes very clear that what is possible, technologically and even spiritually sotospeak, is beyond not only what we've been taught to believe but beyond what we've become accustomed to imagine as well.

It's so fascinating though, for those of us who are interested in discovering the truth of what's going on, to put together the pieces of this reality and try to make sense of it. I'm sure none of us are just "mentally ill" people who want to believe this. I would assume that the majority of us here sense that something is very off, and that we have done substantial research into figuring out what's going on, and have come to this forum along our journey of investigation as this whole cloning topic seems to represent a significant piece of the puzzle.

Also I might add that even the idea of being "mentally ill" is a misnomer, as psychiatry and psychiatric diagnoses of any kind are essentially true pseudo-science with no actual physical scientific basis. (I'm not totally going to slam psychiatry because I think every person is different and we need to do what works for us and things don't need to be soo black and white). But, that all said, James' conclusion, as I am inclined to agree with, is that most people undergoing diagnosis for depression or bipolar, for example, are likely the victims of mind control. And that even just the invention or names of these diagnoses are cover-ups for mind control. And that alot of psychiatric medication acts to reinforce programming, further suppress repressed memories of trauma, and act as somewhat of a catalyst to align people with the negative frequencies on this planet, for instance some that are haarp/satellite linked.

Anyway I appreciate this website alot, as well as the people on here for being good investigators as well as predominently respectful, which is very refreshing.

Much respect and keep up the good work everyone.

[sherlok]

James Casbolt once posted photos on the internet which he said were of a
secret underground base beneath the USA. They were all actually photos of
the Stockholm Subway system that anyone could take who used the system
-- one of them even showed a sign written in Swedish.

As a result it's hard for me to take him seriously. I think it is more likely that
he is either an idiot or a paid disinfo source (or both).

[artemis]

Oops! I didnt know that...

[haleymeijer]

ugh, let me clarify this subject hold on i'll write more. also i modified the post up above as well with more info

[haleymeijer]

About that underground subway thing- he had been befriended by men whom he spoke to on the phone for the course of a few months. These men, who supplied James with the photos, worked to gain his trust. They WERE agents, and even admitted this to him after he posted those pics and suffered the ridicule.

And sorry Sherlok for retorting about saying you're an agent just for saying that, but i find it suspicious how you bring that up soo quickly after my post about James, and I know for a fact that one of the main cointelpro tactics against James, time after time, is to bring up those photos, as well as the idea that he is a paid agent. Believe me he is not a paid agent or else we would have alot more money!

[haleymeijer]

James is a person who grew up in black ops and is traumatized from it (though healing and recovering substantially well) who just wants to put the pieces of his life back together as well as his memories.

Anyway he's been messed with so much but has connections with friends working at Oak Ridge National Laboratories and Defense Intelligence who have helped him gain access to his files and information. He knows some of the people that are from the good factions of these agencies.

He's not a "paid agent" and what would he be paid for anyway? He's just like many other whistleblowers coming forward to share their stories. I don't know why he would trust those men who gave them the photos, but they were agents paid to gain his trust and talk to him night after night. The one agent even admitted he liked James but said in the end that he was "just doing his job," which was to provide james with disinformation to discredit him. James has heard from alot of people who share information and stories from him, he really believed these men were legit and developed a close relationship over the phone with them until it came out who this main guy was who supplied him the information. So James posted these couple of his photos on his old website, and boom just like that now everyone's saying he's a 'fraud" or a "hoax" because of these stupid photos, which he retracted. There was another incident like this where he was sent information/photos that were photoshopped, something about SAALM, that these agents created this entire website and fake organization that was disinformation, with a bunch of fake professionaly photoshopped photos, and James posted a quick link to that too and that was bs as well. But these two things, that were sourced from actual agents, do not negate James' stories altogether, and suffice it to say he's learned his lesson. His website's been down for a while anyway.

His website contained a vast amount of information. To know about the whole subway photo thing you either have to BE an agent or have done a lot of digging about James. He said he explained the whole incident on his website but that is down and somehow that explanation isn't to be found online anymore.

So Sherlok I hope that explains it. It's understandable to be concerned and want answers about that. I hope you're just a curious researcher and not an agent yourself and I have to admit that statement makes me wonder, though maybe I'm just defensive of James and have dealt with cointelpro alot and will reserve my judgement.

[haleymeijer]

Anyway I do apologize if I steered this so off topic I just wanted to add some other ideas and didn't mean to take over the thread discussing James. But I had to come to his defense, as I feel protective over him. I don't know why anyone would start a thread just to disagree with all this anyway.

[haleymeijer]

lol i just read to james what sherlok said in his post and he's like "ahh! they always use that one on me." and says he was "too trusting in the past."

so sherlok you may have just outed yourself here. i apologize if you're not a shill but if you aren't just know that your words are exactly what a shill would say about james.

[skeptical]

I think compassion is the order of the day. I will be more compassionate myself. The whole subject of mind control programming/slavery is fraught with so many double binds, etc. so that those who have been programmed can not themselves tell what is real and what is not so that they may not piece together their fragmented and screen memories in a cohesive manner.

Welcome Haley. If I recall correctly, you may or may not have gone through Monarch. Interested in when and how your memories began to surface.

People, this is very, very real. The cloning I know not of, but I wouldn't doubt it. The testing and breaking of children, absolutely. I can assure you, families are a huge part of the problem. Parents themselves can be DID. Not remembering anything about the testing of their children, facilities, etc. DID tends to be generational as is the abuse, they go hand in hand for some families, so this makes it easier for the controllers, who certainly "follow" the generations and intervene at various times.

Be well all.

[sherlok]

^ "The lady doth protest too much ..."

After seeing Casbolt's photos of the "underground base" it took me 10
minutes with Google to find out what they really showed and the photo
with the Swedish sign which translated to something like "Wait here for
train" took 10 seconds with Babelfish.

Hence my two possible choices for describing James Casbolt.

I'm sorry if James has had a rough time and I am forgiving of such when
it comes to people who have been through the MK mill. Some of my best
friends (and spouses) have as well. So, I am no stranger to this stuff.

However, one must be vigilant and discerning when it comes to info
sources which includes inspection of their track record when deciding who to
trust. I would think a former MI6 agent would agree with that, would he not?

I'm sorry if my reaction to James upset you but it is what it is. However,
my mind is not welded shut and I am willing to change it if I see a reason.
But, calling me names for noticing an error that James made is not a good
start in that direction. IF James made a mistake he (and you) should take
responsibility for it, not simply call others names for noticing it.

[haleymeijer]

Hey Skeptical, thanks for your kind words. I have memories of Project Monarch- which I won't detail now.. which was also corroborated on my nsa file that james was able to access out of Oak Ridge.... it's hard to know with parents, like mine and James', exactly what our parents know about this and what we've been through. Sure some parents "sell" their kids into these programs, or are blackmailed like Cathy O'Brien was, but I think many parents and families may have agreed to it in other alters or had their memories erased about it as well. Just my opinion, idk, still learning.

[haleymeijer]

Sherlok, I did not call you any names. YOU are the one who called my fiance an idiot! I said your words are exactly what cointelpro says. As if they were given a guidebook as to what to say, that would be it.

[haleymeijer]

Sherlok I do not believe you, but fair enough.