I disagree

[sabrina]

Feb 8, 2010 14:57:30 GMT -5 qbert said:

Dec 29, 2009 13:30:28 GMT -5 sabrina said:

Not true. I explained that not everyone on this board believes all the actors here were replaced outright by doubles. As for Christina the shape of her head is different her chin and eyes are also very different. Before she had a receeding chin and a round head and now her head is more angular. Her eyes are bigger too.

No, they're not. Sorry but I disagree.

I know who you are, I've seen you around on other forums. (where I've disagreed with things same as here!) You're always the smarter one in the bunch. I don't get why you associate yourself with people like this. These people are usually whackjobs who will insist that a square head is round, or that blue eyes are brown or that two people look alike who only maybe resemble each other. You're usually the voice of reason, and you're right you don't just agree with every far fetched claim that the crazies are saying. I don't get why you associate with these places.

Dec 29, 2009 13:30:28 GMT -5 sabrina said:

How can you explain rich and famous people like this? Couldn't they get better surgeries?

Priscilla has gone public with her botched plastic surgery. Didn't you see where her plastic "surgeon" "doctor" was a quack, and was injecting her with toxins?

"Priscilla Presley was perhaps naive when she underwent bad plastic surgery at the hands of a shady character who was posing as a medical doctor. She was not the only celebrity client to fall for the fake credentials of the phony physician. Daniel Serrano is currently serving an 18 month sentence for performing procedures using imported substances that were not FDA approved. He entered a guilty plea in Los Angeles Federal Court for conspiracy, smuggling and use of unapproved drugs." www.bittenandbound.com/2008/03/26/priscilla-presleys-plastic-surgery-nightmare-photos/

It doesn't mean she was replaced, it means she went to a shady guy and paid the price with her face.

Meg Ryan fell for the "everybody needs to have big fat Angelina Jolie lips" mind control. Now she looks like a duck. Quack quack! If she laid off the lip injector for five minutes maybe she'd go back to looking like her old self.

Re: the replacement on a soul level. Even if that was the case....WHO CARES? You know? Seriously, why are you guys so obsessed with idiot celebrities?? These people are idiots half the time who memorize lines for a living to repeat in front of a camera, and here you are obsessing about whether they've been physically replaced, whether they have doubles running around, whether their soul was snatched, blah blah blah. WHO f**kING CARES. Does it even matter?? No! Remember Cher in Moonstruck? Big slap across the face and a "Snap out of it!" I will ironically quote a celeb's movie line to get my point across about waking up and snapping out of your celeb obsessed mind control trance. Snap out of it. Wake up already! "This person was replaced! That person has a paid double! This person's soul is gone! That person has a clone!" WHO CARES. THEY ARE IDIOT MOVIE STARS.

Consider this: Half the people that you see involved in these celeb obsessed forums and blogs are people that are either crazy or they've been put there to inject crazy into the group. And then the good but naive people get pulled into their crazy. Consider that.

Adios!

I think I know you too. I believe my posts speak for themselves, and stand alone, showing exactly what my personal beliefs are on these subjects.

I like this board because people are not afraid to delve into topics that whether or not are occurring now will most certainly occur in the near future.

Synthetic humans, artificial intelligence, cloning, are all realities and will become increasingly important in the coming years.

Hey, this affects all of us, man! ;D

All too real, are the dirty dealings of murder, child abuse and satanic sacrifice in entertainment circles. When you consider the history of hollywood, its ties to Nazi Germany and the military intelligence community-many other stranger things could also be true.

No one here has been rude to me, or un-intelligent in their responses. I feel these are valid topics and I will continue to discuss them respectfully with others.

[fauxster]

I think the increasing number of shills is actually a good sign. The information about replaCIAments is slowly coming out. Maybe *some* people are feeling threatened...?

[J Gimmysum Truth]

I would urge qbert to stick around and argue his points on the individual threads rather than just continuing this taunt-thread. As the admin/founder website of this forum, I probably agree with less than half of the threads posted here.

On some I disagree outright; but many I just don't think I have a good enough sense of who the celeb in question is in the first place. Qbert makes a good point about the importance of trying to empathize and place yourself in the world of these in question in order to understand the situations better.

Never heard of "faces becom[ing] bigger," though.

[insectoverlord]

I get what you're saying here. I too look through these posts and think that commenters may be going overboard a bit with assumptions. I mean, Megan Fox and Chrsitina Ricci and some other women just look like they've had little surgeries to me. Or as with Belinda Carlisle, fat and collagen los from diet and age. Well to my eyes.

But the reason why I even found this thread, this forum, was because of Tom Cruise. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and had no strong feelings about the guy one way or the other, but I always noticed that there seemed to be two Tom Cruises. Physically. One with a thinner head and bigger "Gonzo" nose and dorky looking, and the other more handsome to me - a different nose and slightly wider face and more level eyes. In fact, a different look in the eyes. Make no mistake, I know that our mods and "energy" can trick the eye, but I'm talking about actual facial proportions here, physical matter.

I noticed this for years and finally looked it up, thinking I'd find stuff about his decoy - but do decoys star in entire movies?!

Also, I have to say, as bizarre as it sounds, there's no explaining away Eminem's chin and facial proportion change. Are we to believe that Eminmen, though he grew up very poor, had a chin implant all that time, one which was later REMOVED, making his face effectively less proportional? I don't know what it "means", just what my eyes see.

Also, Sly Stallone? What the hell? They didn't even try with that one, whoever they are. Skull shape and eye orbit shape is totally different. And a Google image search of Jimmy Sands turns up bizarre photos of somone with a different head shape (not to mention plastic surgery look and makeup) who is going around as Sands. I guess if the real Sands is busy impersonating Stallone...

So yeah, also Paul McCartney and Ringo. Different folks over the years. To me the men I've mentioned are all the convincing I need. I don't get caught up in height or hair effects. I'm talking about head shape and underlying structure, which is easier to get obscured in women.

I don't claim to know the nefarious backstory, just what my 20/20 vision sees.

[robin66]

hi, I've been reading these threads and I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but you people really are mentally ill. I'm not trying to be a wise ass. I'm serious. You are mentally ill.
Qbert is, of course, the most reasonable, but even he/she thinks Paul is dead, which is insane. But this is one of the most entertaining sites I've come across in a while!
Do any of you have mental illness diagnoses? I'd be curious to know.

[robin66]

Poster Tabasco seems to be mentally ill. Not an insult, just something I noticed.

[artemis]

Aug 30, 2010 2:07:51 GMT -5 robin66 said:

Do any of you have mental illness diagnoses? I'd be curious to know.

Look who's talking! Idiot 100%! Sheeple! Get lost and dont bother posting here since u believe this place is infested with loonies. We could do very well without morons' opinion, too.

[lucy]

Aug 30, 2010 4:18:05 GMT -5 artemis said:

Aug 30, 2010 2:07:51 GMT -5 robin66 said:

Do any of you have mental illness diagnoses? I'd be curious to know.

Look who's talking! Idiot 100%! Sheeple! Get lost and dont bother posting here since u believe this place is infested with loonies. We could do very well without morons' opinion, too.

If you don't believe in replacements then why come to this forum? Why waste your time and ours by having to read your complaining???

Seriously, if you have the nerve to say that everybody has a mental problem because they see physical differences in celebrities and YOU don't....perhaps you need to get an eye exam as well as having your own brain tested.

I think you have the nerve to call other people "loonie".

There are facilities that are filled with "loonies" and wished they had that much sense as most of the regulars have.

[thirdeye]

you can see for yourself that the celebs we are talking about have been replaced. JOHN TRAVOLTA for example, come on now. EDDIE MURPHY?? does this person even look remotely like the EM you saw on sat night live? and dont talk about age, just use your own eyes. MADONNA ANYONE?? so you are actually going to say the woman theyve been saying in the media is MADONNA is actually her?? you probably think the dude or dudes that were playing MICHAEL JACKSON were really the AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN Michael Jackson!! LOL @ YOU!!

[lucy]

It's a peculiar thing that those who point the "mental illness" finger at others are most likely to be the ones who have some serious issues to deal with.

The pictures don't lie. They show differences. You can google pics and compare those for yourself and you'll see...if you're willing to look.

[haleymeijer]

keep up the good fight everyone! i've loved how shill-free this whole forum has been for so long. hopefully these trolls with come and go. cheers!

[lindsayjudy]

The facial feature they cannot change at all (unless they have collagen injections) is the LIPS. Sometimes the eyes. Another way to tell an imposter is to compare jaw width and overall bone structure of the face. Usually, one twin/double, like the old Travolta, will have a more NARROW jaw bone/face than his or her replacement (Fravolta). And one twin/double will have a more SQUARE, boxy bone structure than the other, who has a more oval or long rectangular facial structure.

It's not difficult to see it, but you need to take time to compare and study.

[haleymeijer]

yeah. we're all just touching the tip of the iceberg here and this is definitely on to something. to the average person who is unfamiliar with black ops technology this all sounds insane. but spend some time in an underground base or cloning facility and yeah this sh*t's real....

being engaged to james casbolt i hear all sorts of stories of his experiences in underground bases and cloning facilities as his memories come back and he works to heal and overcome his past trauma. it is fascinating.

cloning and mkultra, specifically project monarch, go very hand in hand. because that is how "they" get away with doing so much to us or other people involved. swap us around as children growing up, giving us screen memories.. i have seen experienced this from a first hand experience, as has james-- living with someone else's screen memories-- looking through old photos trying to figure out who is who...

one soul is raised in an underground base, swapped in and out of their clone's life--- until they finally replace that other person, or continue to get swapped around- used and abused, involved in rituals, breeding programs, prostitution and goodness knows what else.

it's easy maybe to criticize these celebrities on here for being "freaks" or whatever, but they deserve as much love and respect as any other individual. who knows what they remember (or don't) and have been through. how completely rare must it be for any of them to actually figure out what happened to them? just going through life knowing something's not right and not having the time to research or the knowledge of this technology and mind control. they think they are troubled when they don't even realize their lives are a lie and that they are living through the false memories of another individual while holding within themselves probably buried memories or extreme trauma. i think they deserve our compassion as much as anyone else.

and also, it may seem "far out" to think for instance, with eminem or other artists, as to how could his replacement be as talented or so much like him? this is just another soul carrying around eminem's memories - replicating a human is going to replicate their talents as their dna is used to create a mirror- it's like plugging in an equation- the next person comes close to that equation but will have minor differences as they are carrying around other untouchable memories on top of their false memories. (not to mention manufacturer's defects). i apologize if i'm writing this all in the wrong thread or saying things that have already been said but i've been reading this forum for a year and am finally chiming in though am quite tired writing this when i should be sleeping.

anyway, the technology that is being used is above and beyond what any of us can probably imagine. it is not all completely "evil" i don't think.. it's just a play that's being carried out. there may be evil intent behind much of it but i think that will ultimately fail. i think that the human or et spirit has been underestimated. dark things go on behind closed doors but not for that much longer...

one thing i wanted to mention too is that my fiance's two cents are that many of these original celebrities may be going off world- they may be brought to another planet and not even know they left earth, or they may wake up in a different planet and be briefed on what's happened or continue to be mind controlled. this is in the case that they aren't sacrificed to begin with. james' forwarded me an email from a secret service agent who said that angelina was brought to an underground base and wound up killing herself there upon seeing the conditions. it's curious how she ("fangelina") turns up at every major (manufactured?) disaster- there are two sides to this, that she may be disinforming a lot of people with subtle words and portraits of her experience (that would be the bad intent) .. and then there are others who are inspired to do better and see her as an inspiration for good (which would be a positive maybe unintended byproduct) - either way, whatever Angelina is involved in, she probably doesn't even fully realize, so i don't feel it's right to bash her or any other people who are being used against their wills and without their knowledge for an agenda they are ignorant of even knowing exists.

James Casbolt is an ex-mi6 whistleblower who's been involved in Project Mannequin among other things and I recommend checking out his youtube interviews or reading his book Agent Buried Alive for more insight into his experiences where he touches on info about clones. he will be coming forward with more of this info in the future as well. so anyway i find his insight into this valuable. Barry King worked at an underground base where James grew up in and can corroborate and go further into detail as to these facilities and the cloning and things that take place there.

hopefully some of this information i've listed is pertinent to this thread or helps anyone understand this cloning issue a bit more at all. it takes alot of research into black ops to begin to understand the technology and dimensions involved in this most massive cover up.

[artemis]

Woohooo! Mind boggling! Keep it comin' pls...

[lucy]

I've read about some of James' story somewhere along my road of research into mind control slavery. Though I can't say I've read alot, but I am familiar with the name.

I find this entire celebrity imposter replacing business terribly disturbing, on all levels. Part of what I've read almost sounds like Science Fiction, but when different former monarch slaves tell similar stories, it tells me that there is an entire subculture of this taking place and most of the masses are so caught up in sports and entertainment that they don't know about the Illuminati much less mind control and imposter replacements.

I just hope this new poster doesn't jump ship we need to read these things.