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Post by beatlies on Feb 4, 2008 18:58:11 GMT -5
Anyone think that Mick Jagger could have acted as a double or replacement for Brian Epstein, or vice versa? I notice they look alike enough for this to happen, and certainly occur to TPTB. Part of the infamous Epstein-Knotts-Jagger triangle perhaps. Anyway, from what I can see, Brian Epstein was either replaced or used a double before 1966 and after, as was Ringo. There was precedent for Paul being replaced in September 1966, and the replacement of the other Beatles, long before this happened. The Beatles had always been in some way a rotating crew of dopplegangers, with studio voice impersonators too. From a blog --- Wednesday, February 08, 2006 [Hey] Jude Law will play ["Juden"] Brian Epstein. In a "quirky, hallucinogenic" biopic of the Beatles manager, who died when he was 32. Do you want to see a Brian Epstein biopic? Do you want Jude Law to play the role? And, most importantly, do you want it to be quirky and hallucinogenic? Labels: Beatles, drugs Stumble It! Facebook DiggIt! Del.icio.us posted by Ann Althouse at 6:51 PM 12 Comments: SippicanCottage said... This post has been removed by the author. 7:24 PM XWL said... The Hours and Times is about the relationship between Brian and John. In the IMDB plot description it describes it as a 'fictionalized' account of a holiday in Spain they spend together. I recall watching a portion of this and I remember the film making Epstein's attraction towards Lennon crystal clear and suggests that they proceeded to 'consumate' those feelings of attraction. www.earcandymag.com/tonybramwell2-2005.jpg[/img]www.earcandymag.com/tonybramwell2-2005.jpgcache.viewimages.com/xc/3165791.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=41CAE2DF95708CE21457C8E402FA95FAA55A1E4F32AD3138
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Post by lucy on Feb 11, 2008 19:07:54 GMT -5
I mentioned this on another thread, but on the 60 IF site, they are no longer mentioning the Don Knotts replacement theory, but rather a Maurice Buckmaster.
I don't know if you have heard of this man or not. But I thought I'd mention it here.
I did a google search on him, and the man would have been in his 50's or 60's in the 1960's to replace Brian, a man in his 30's.
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Post by beatlies on Feb 12, 2008 11:37:13 GMT -5
I mentioned this on another thread, but on the 60 IF site, they are no longer mentioning the Don Knotts replacement theory, but rather a Maurice Buckmaster. I don't know if you have heard of this man or not. But I thought I'd mention it here. I did a google search on him, and the man would have been in his 50's or 60's in the 1960's to replace Brian, a man in his 30's. The TKIN page currently says Maurice Buckmaster was "one of the replacements" for Brian Epstein, implying there was another. This could mean he hasn't backed away from Knotts as one of the imposters, although he no longer mentions Knotts on the page. digilander.libero.it/p_truth/index.htmlA 54-55 year old Buckmaster playing an early 30s Brian is plausible with makeup and wig, especially the "gelatine" advanced skin makeup. Just as it would be possible (I would say) for a fortysomething "Phil Ackrill" to act as an imposter for a mid-twenties James Paul McCartney.
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Post by The Mask on Feb 12, 2008 15:31:30 GMT -5
beatlies, could you expand on this Jagger-Knotts-Epstein connection you are talking about?
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Post by beatlies on Feb 13, 2008 13:44:58 GMT -5
Not much of a connection, but its been pointed out before both that Knotts weirdly enough was a doppleganger for Mick Jagger ("Spy" magazine, funded by Raytheon Defense corp. money, even put this Jagger-Knotts "Separated at Birth" on the cover of a book they published in the 1989 or 90). Also, whether you agree with the TKIN claim or not (and I don't want to get on that bandwagon), he also did look enough like Brian Epstein to plausibly act as a double for him with makeup and slight plastic surgery similar to Faul's impostering. Now we know that celebrity imposter replacing was so common in the 1960s (as it has been since and now) that this resemblence could hardly have escaped the notice of TBTB. Look, it's 1969 and Her Satanic Majesty's Request "Love God" Mick Jagger dancing on stage at 3:04 --- www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81mnYTlRec
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Post by beatlies on Feb 13, 2008 15:43:18 GMT -5
Undated photo of Brian Epstein from wikipedia: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1c/Brian_Epstein_Laughing.jpgIt's worth noting that Epstein was not the Beatles' first manager, Alan Williams was, whose name and story have virtually disappeared from the official history. Epstein also managed Denny Laine and the Moody Blues, and "discovered" the Young Rascals when they were in London, who served to produce doubles for Paul McCartney (Dino Danelli) and Ringo (Felix Cavalieri).
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Post by beatlies on Feb 15, 2008 2:37:25 GMT -5
Not much of a connection, but its been pointed out before both that Knotts weirdly enough was a doppleganger for Mick Jagger ("Spy" magazine, funded by Raytheon Defense corp. money, even put this Jagger-Knotts "Separated at Birth" on the cover of a book they published in the 1989 or 90). Also, whether you agree with the TKIN claim or not (and I don't want to get on that bandwagon), he also did look enough like Brian Epstein to plausibly act as a double for him with makeup and slight plastic surgery similar to Faul's impostering. Now we know that celebrity imposter replacing was so common in the 1960s (as it has been since and now) that this resemblence could hardly have escaped the notice of TBTB. Look, it's 1969 and Her Satanic Majesty's Request "Love God" Mick Jagger dancing on stage at 3:04 --- www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81mnYTlRecDon Knotts singing "Ruby Tuesday" in 1967 on the Ed Sullivan Show: www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2mZ0jJDtcJust kidding. Okay if this really were Don Knotts and not Mick Jagger, do you really think anyone would notice? Given all that we've discovered so far with the celebrity dopplegangers mass pulling-wool-over the public's eyes. Knotts was a skilled vocal artist and ventriloquist. Imitating Jagger or Epstein's voice would be a piece of cake for him. And is that Brian Jones and Keith Richards in the clip or Frian Fones and Fieth Frichards? Knotts actually does a Jagger dance and Jagger head (mr.) chicken bobbing thing at 3:04 in this 1969 clip of his Mr. Peacock movie. And in other scenes here he is dressed like a posh London Brian Epstein! www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81mnYTlRec
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Post by wowposter on Oct 31, 2008 5:23:50 GMT -5
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Post by lindsayjudy on Nov 28, 2009 23:49:26 GMT -5
What happened to the real Brian Epstein? Was he...
1) kidnapped and murdered by the KKK in the 60s, 2) put out to pasture and then "suicided" by drug overdose in the 70s, 3) killed some other way?
I don't know. I'm asking. What is the consensus opinion (if there is one) and what are the clues pointing to it?
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Post by lindsayjudy on Dec 5, 2009 21:04:19 GMT -5
In the Love God clip (Don Knotts), what I find interesting is his friend JoEllen's comment: "You seem to be everywhere doing everything."
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Post by fauxster on Dec 7, 2009 13:41:55 GMT -5
I don't think the KKK was involved in what happened to the Beatles or Brian. I think the Illuminati was behind it, using the intelligence services to carry out the deeds. Of course, KKK could have been infiltrated into making threats, or the threats could have been taken advantage of...
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