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Post by beatlies on Jan 28, 2010 21:17:24 GMT -5
That cover of Randy Newman with the horned rimmed glasses also looks like he could pass as Charlie Brill in his younger days... What the heck is going on? A massive Lennon duplication? Bingo. Another Fohn Fennon candidate: John Sebastian--- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlxi1bqcacY&feature=related |
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Post by lucy on Jan 30, 2010 0:31:07 GMT -5
And have you seen pics of John Sebastian lately? I didn't recognize him. He was on one of those infomercials for Time/Life music collections of the 60's.
Who knows what was done to him...another iconic hippie flower child singer...though certainly not with the fame or power that Fennon possessed....or should I say, the image of power and fame that the Illuminists gave the fake Lennon.
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Post by artemis on Jan 30, 2010 18:18:01 GMT -5
The cover of WALLS&BRIDGES reedited. I counted 5 pairs of glasses so there mite be 5 impersonators in all or 4 (minus the original).  |
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Post by holyknight on Feb 18, 2010 17:35:54 GMT -5
hi, I'm new here, and I've got two questions.
1. What do they do with the real celebs? (but please don't say things like "oh, you know, they just put them in this plactic bag after they kill them, and dump them in an ocean").
and how about their spouses, families? Don't they notice the change?
2. What about the voices?
John Lennon had a very distinctive voice. How is it that it didn't change? (and please don't give me "oh, you know, it changed, of course" cos I'm a musician, a composer and a singer (among other things) and have a good ear for voices)
Thanks for your answers.
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Post by holyknight on Feb 18, 2010 18:09:11 GMT -5
A bit angry? I'd be too. And more. With such two arrogant **holes "interviewers" all sane people would be pissed off big time. |
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Post by beatlies on Feb 18, 2010 22:23:54 GMT -5
hi, I'm new here, and I've got two questions. 1. What do they do with the real celebs? (but please don't say things like "oh, you know, they just put them in this plactic bag after they kill them, and dump them in an ocean"). and how about their spouses, families? Don't they notice the change? 2. What about the voices? John Lennon had a very distinctive voice. How is it that it didn't change? (and please don't give me "oh, you know, it changed, of course" cos I'm a musician, a composer and a singer (among other things) and have a good ear for voices) Thanks for your answers. I can say, speaking for myself, answers: 1) We don't know; it may vary from case to case what happens to/has happened to the imposter-replaced person. The natural tendency in people's minds seems to be that they died, most likely murdered, but this is usually just speculation. As for the families, as I wrote in the "Levels of Doubles" thread, the families and close friends of spies, covert agents and those under the witness-protection program have to deal with similar false identity issues; they sign secrecy agreements with the government/military/shadow government and live under that terrible cloud. I would add that just the intelligence agencies of the United States, one country, are documented to have some 200,000 "employees" at least. 2) The voices of the imposters are often convincing sound-alikes, but show up as fakes with audio sonogram comparisons (voice ID "fingerprints"). As for John Lennon/Fennon the voices sound quite different to me and to others. There are some postings about this voice change. |
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Post by fauxster on Feb 19, 2010 2:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by sherlok on Feb 19, 2010 7:57:55 GMT -5
My view is that most of these celebs come from multi-generational
illuminati cult families to begin with and their marriages are arranged
with others from the same "network." Virtually all of the person's
family and other close contacts are already under tight control which
includes MK-ULTRA type mind control. They are no more likely to talk
then the person him/herself.
As for voices I suspect that mind control plays a big part in this.
Trauma-based mind control is far more effective than simple
hypnosis. I believe it would be a simple matter to use it to
bring about a very convincing voice duplication. Surgical and/or
GM methods could also be used.
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Post by holyknight on Feb 19, 2010 16:39:23 GMT -5
I can say, speaking for myself, answers: 1) We don't know; it may vary from case to case what happens to/has happened to the imposter-replaced person. The natural tendency in people's minds seems to be that they died, most likely murdered, but this is usually just speculation. All's fine, but why would they replace Lennon? He didn't change his "course". He was anti-establishment, anti-war, he hated the gvt and was followed by the FBI & CIA which had huge files on him. his phone was tapped. he was about to take part in a huge anti-war festival before he was shot. the gvts were afraid of his power, as they were afraid of Marley's influence as well as 2pac's and others'. Why would they get rid of real Lennon, if he didn't change his course? It doesn't make any sense, does it? With McCartney it's more acceptable somehow. They replaced him as they'd be dead as a famous group. But with Lennon? What for? As for the families, as I wrote in the "Levels of Doubles" thread, the families and close friends of spies, covert agents and those under the witness-protection program have to deal with similar false identity issues; yeah, but what for? Why would they be quiet? I understand why Ono would be quiet (naming L's fortune, as example), but how about Cynthia? Julian? I've read loads of books about Lennon, Cynthia's inclusive, but no "changes" of Lennon's character were mentioned. He was a despotic SOB all his life. So again, why the "exchange"? 2) The voices of the imposters are often convincing sound-alikes, but show up as fakes with audio sonogram comparisons (voice ID "fingerprints"). As for John Lennon/Fennon the voices sound quite different to me and to others. There are some postings about this voice change. Sorry, but this is only your word for support. I haven't found any evidence besides some dead links. If you could post any I'd be grateful. As a kid I listened to the Beatles' records over and over again, I also know L's voice in his interviews while with the Beatles, and later with Ono etc. It's THE SAME VOICE, and sorry people, you have nothing to back up your claims about the change his voice supposedly went through. As a singer I can tell you, that I've found I can sing with different voices not even planning on it. People who know my voice don't recognise it in some of the recordings. But Lennon's voice really stays the same in all his songs and interviews. I never had doubts, and I listened to his records for years, that it was always Lennon's voice there. He also behaved the same, his gestures, his walk, everything is Lennon's and not impostor's. So with Lennon's "exchange", I think you've hit a dead end road. |
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Post by fauxster on Feb 19, 2010 17:37:06 GMT -5
All's fine, but why would they replace Lennon? He didn't change his "course". He was anti-establishment, anti-war, he hated the gvt and was followed by the FBI & CIA which had huge files on him. his phone was tapped. he was about to take part in a huge anti-war festival before he was shot. the gvts were afraid of his power, as they were afraid of Marley's influence as well as 2pac's and others'. Why would they get rid of real Lennon, if he didn't change his course? It doesn't make any sense, does it? Yes, it does. The *real* Lennon probably couldn't be controlled. Vladimir Lenin once said, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it." John was speaking out against Vietnam in 1966. Yoko, w/ Illuminati ties, came on the scene & pretty much derailed the anti-war movement & made it look ridiculous. Bagism? Is anyone really going to take that seriously? That's like something Monty Python would do - speak out agains the war while covered up in a freaking bag. Anyway, for more about how the ant-war movement was hi-jacked, see: MK-ULTRA & the '60's "counter-culture"Did you read those links I posted on Heather Mills & Mal Evans? I guess you missed what I posted on voices. Here it is again for your convenience. I would assume that means also know what your target sounds like, how he talks, accent, etc. Background information on doubles"The voice is easy to simulate and doubles constantly study video and audio records." ["Saddam's 'Double' Trouble: Opposition Leader Claims Hussein Died Of Cancer In 1999," 3-26-03, www.rense.com/general46/doub.htm]It is also possible that technology can mimic a person's voice. Vocal differences & voice technologySo it is not "just opinion" that voices of 2 different people can sound similar. Some people really need to do more research on doubles! P.S. If you want to prove it's the same voice, then provide some voiceprints. Otherwise, it's just your opinion. Oh, & that article I posted makes it seem like the *Real* John Lennon's voice could have been used, even though he was replaced. |
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Post by beatlies on Feb 20, 2010 0:10:24 GMT -5
Here is an example of the voice difference, holynight, a bearded-up Fennon doing "Dizzy Miss Lizzy" 1969 in Toronto vs. John Lennon at Shea Stadium, New York City 1965: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HckNUFaSGpY&feature=relatedVs. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j-o1vtBs1YThe real Lennon's depth, resonance and timbre are unmistakeably absent, and those are the most difficulty aspects to fake; aside from that, it's about as good an impostering as can be expected. And the CIA/MI6/BND etc. have top training for that, of course. |
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Post by fauxster on Feb 20, 2010 1:00:03 GMT -5
The double failed to assume the "John Lennon stance," too. lol Tsk tsk. Someone didn't read the manual carefully. lol
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Post by sherlok on Feb 20, 2010 1:26:38 GMT -5
The double failed to assume the "John Lennon stance," too. lol Tsk tsk. Someone didn't read the manual carefully. lol Yes, this was a big tip-off for me. It's quite a unique and consistent mannerism that JL had. |
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Post by lucy on Feb 20, 2010 21:16:03 GMT -5
When to make comparisons between the two, you can tell how badly the imitators actually were....
It's not easy to swallow all of the replacing of people business that has been going on for ages. But when you've researched the materials of the Illuminati and their influence over every aspect of society....you can see their fingerprints all over the industry of arts and entertainment....
It's through this avenue to infiltrate the masses in how they think and live. To have these icons be their "spokesperson", even though they are puppets of the Illuminati, and programming their puppets to act out for the masses, as though these things just happen...
not an easy thing to realize, but it's very real and it's all over the spectrum of politics and entertainment.
The real Lennon could not be mastered by the puppetmasters, so they get rid of him and replace him with willing doubles....The powers that be don't care who gets killed in the process, even their own, if it means to forward their plans....they will eat and devour their own young to do it.
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Post by beatlies on Mar 1, 2010 23:02:41 GMT -5
Was RALPH ELLIS a Fohn Fennon?YouTube - The Swinging Blue Jeans (NME-1964)May 2, 2008 ... Oh dear,Ralph Ellis and John Lennon were not related. ... Ralph Ellis actually quit to go into the insurance business where he had a ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn4Y9DEKeAQ - Cached - Similar The King Is Naked! The True Story Of The Beatles - Search ResultsFeb 16, 2010 ... The third one matches perfectly with Ralph Ellis face features. .... left on stage) The best candidate for John Lennon double: Ralph Ellis ... 60if.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=recent - Cached - Similar
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