I sold my soul to rock'n'roll

[faulconandsnowjob]

Going back to all the cat references... I've heard that S. American countries that were prone to torture people would use everyday objects, such as Coke bottles, so that there would be constant reminders of the torture. I'm wondering if the cats & all the other imagery aren't meant to do the same thing...

Anyway, all the symbolism does make me a little nervous, b/c I've heard symbols work at a subconscious level. They are influencing you, somehow, even if you don't realize it. Of course, if you recognize the symbol, then it may not have the same effect on the subconscious, b/c it's brought out into the light...

[lostworld]

Sherlok & Falcoun,
thanks for confirming what I already knew...

Yes, our souls are different. To me, that is a beautiful thing though...

One of my major hang ups in this life is how good things always seem to happen to bad people. I have searched through religions, science and the paranormal but have not got an answer. They say that we all have our share of good things and bad but I know for a fact that this just isn´t true! It does NOT at all add up.

I can totally accept that we are all here to learn, for our souls to be more educated, but the ones that need most learning goes free of real problems! I have seen so much of this and have come to the conclusion that the world today is ruled by evil (not just in human form, from an evil power or something), and that this evil protects its own. Even encourage it.

I´ve watched a man in my circle of acquaintances for 10 years now and how nothing ever seems to happen to him!
Meanwhile "I´ve been to hell and back".

He is one of the most shallow people I know, arrogant and mean. Yet - nothing. Instead he gets everything he wants, has great success in his business and a trofy wife 10 years younger than him. I know that this isn´t real happiness of course and that his life is a total fake BUT - he doesn´t think so and that´s what counts really.
The worst thing is that he get to call me a loser (which I know I´m not!) just because I´ve been hit by life and not sure of what I wanna work with etc. He gets to mock me, when I´m a more enlightened soul then he´ll ever be!

Tell me, what is this man learning in this life? I just don´t get it

If anything, he learns that he is right and I am wrong, though I´m so convinced that I´m the one on the right path and not him.

He is running a MLM business = network marketing (which I now some say is a huge business place for freemasons since all these companies are fixated on "the perfect life" with big $$$$$$ = keeping people focusing on the material in the Matrix - a great distraction!).
I´ve even started to think that he has sold his soul in exchange for success! Nothing surprises me and that could very much be a good explanation.

Meanwhile I found myself getting more tested than "normal" people seem to be. Always crashed relationships, major deaths and an never ending "bad luck" - even if I know that this is not what it is about really...
Always the feeling that "something" is fighting against you. This has sometimes worn me out totally, caused depressions etc. I´m SO sure that "normal" people wouldn´t be able to handle even half of what I´ve been going through without turning into destructive behaviour, drugs, alcohol, suicide or whatever. I know that are strong words to say, but it´s true. Especially since you see "normal" people breaking down over nothing - cause they are not used to problems or struggles like the ones I´m talking about here. Their problem might be like a broken nail to me - and NO I don´t want to sound arrogant but this is the way I see it. Of course death happens to all people, as well as sickness - it´s natural.
What is not natural is that somebody can die /get a disease out of nowhere when he/she is a good and healthy person etc when AT THE SAME TIME you have a chain smoking, evil person who has done nothing good for mankind that lives to be at least 80-90 years old. I just don´t get it!!


I think that "they" want to drain me out so I can´t focus and do the work that I´m supposed to do here. Now, in the last years I´ve been trying different methods to fight this. I know that if they get me in a depressive state I just get more vulnerable and there is just a downward spiral effect where more bad things seem to happen since I´m "uncovered" and they can get to me. I try to retract myself from people and situations that I know will make me vulnerable to them and drain me from energy for instance. I know when I have my "shield" on, feeling strong and untouchable.

When I tell "normal people" that I think that there is no coincidence that this happens to me I get called "paranoid".


I know this sounds completely weird probably. I have a guy friend who is completely broken down and "paralyzed" by everything that has happened to him. He is also wired like us - different. He´s a big animal lover and could have done major work as an activist if they had left him alone. It´s sad and tragic. He can´t even eat anymore cause it´s even getting to him physically (something about his throat). He´s done every kind of medical testing, incl. two brain scans and they can´t find anything! His psychiatrist claims his paranoid and that it´s all in his mind, especially since they can´t find anything.

I think there are a lot of people that are diagnosed wrong. My friend doesn´t hear voices (yet) but we´ve all heard of these cases too. TPTB / the illuminati also use occult rituals and whitchcraft etc to bring out demons - often combined with mind control programming.
My friend is convinced that it´s either demons or some hi tech technology "they" are using to break him down.

Earlier in history, people believed in demons, angels etc. Now it´s all replaced by psychiatry.
I don´t mean to get all Tom Cruise here and I do believe that there are many people out there with serious mental issues (you can be sick in the brain as well as in any other parts of you body). BUT I don´t think that everything can be placed within psychiatry. And then there isn´t much more options to chose from, where these peoples problems comes from...

Oh, and btw. About good things happening to bad people:
I went with a friend on a "The Secret" seminar. The hype of the Secret even got to me about a year ago and in fact, even before knowing about it I had used some of that way of thinking when "fighting my demons" and building up my strength. So I knew that some of it works, when trying to not attract bad things etc.
Anyway - I hate how the Secret focuses more on $ than on relationships. It can also not be applied on everything - like one on my fav examples: Did all the people on the Titanic or the victims of 9/11 just "had the wrong way of thinking"? NO - of course they didn´t !! Some things you just can´t control, like your "destiny", being at the wrong place at the wrong time or whatever this can be called...

So I told this example to the guy holding the seminar and then I had ruined the "good spirit" like always (according to them)

Then I continued with questioning his statement that "every one can get what they want".


I asked him: does this mean that even bad people and criminals etc can get whatever they wish for?
His answer was yes! and then I´d had it.

WHAT is the point of this life if this is how it works? And the Secret is called "a natural/universal force". Is it???
I just don´t get it! And it makes me too.

Actually, after the seminar this middle-aged couple came up to me and wanted to tell me that they thought that I was right and that it was brave of me to question him
They didn´t tell me what they had been through but I know it must have been something quite big.

When this happens, same as with finding kindered spirits like you here etc, I´ll take it as a receipt that it´s not me - it´s them, that are wrong.

[sherlok]

To: lostworld
RE: earlier post about clones

I wish I knew more about clones myself but I've found little info
on them from anyone who seems to know. I doubt a clone would
naturally have the talent of the original person, though having
physical characteristics like voice quality seems logical to me.

But, having said that, I do know that amazing things can be done
via hypnosis (something I once studied and practiced briefly years
ago). People can suddenly manifest abilities via hypnosis that
they didn't apparently have before.

I think you and I have probably read a lot of the same material. The
stuff about creating a genius or photographic memory came from
Fritz whom I believe you're familiar with. It's the brain stem scarring
that does it, he said. He also said that sometimes it works and
sometimes it kills the person.

Cathy O'Brien also mentioned that her daughter had the brain stem
treatment though she didn't mention anything about a genius effect
as I recall.

There is an old music legend about the blues artist Robert Johnson.
They say he was a mediocre player with no particular talent. The
story goes that Robert disappeared briefly and when he returned he
was suddenly a genius and could play and sing and write like no
one had ever seen before. He blew his fellow musicians away. He
explained that he went to a place called the crossroads and met the
devil. The devil made him a deal for his soul and gave him his
musical genius in return. Robert was later murdered by an angry
lover.

Maybe Robert was telling the truth -- as he knew it, anyway.

[faulconandsnowjob]

I have heard that clones are not very robust in health.

One of my major hang ups in this lost and sick world is how good things always seem to happen to bad people. I have searched through religions, science and the paranormal but have not got an answer. They say that we all have our share of good things and bad but I know for a fact that this just isn´t true! It does NOT at all add up.

In my life, I have found, that I seem to get tested a lot more than "normal" people. Always crashed relationships/unhappy in love, major deaths (my father when I was just 12 years old), "bad luck" - even if I know that this is not what it is about really.
Always the feeling that "something" is fighting against you. This has sometimes worn me totally out, caused depressions etc. When I say that I think that there is no coincidence that this happens to me I get called "paranoid".

Well, I do believe in karma, & that everything evens out in the end. Some of the bad stuff that happens might not not actually be "bad," it might just be that we do not understand b/c we don't have the bigger picture. For ex, one of my friends was recently killed, but I think it's b/c he has work to do elsewhere, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I also have had terrible luck in relationships. Now that I know who my soulmate is, I can see why I couldn't have a relationship w/ anyone else. It makes sense. Unfortunately, it's not possible to be "together" w/ him right now, but it's cool.

I don't believe in coincidence, either :-) You know what, if people knew all the stuff that goes on in govts, especially w/ intell, they'd be paranoid!

I think there are a lot of people that are diagnosed wrong. My friend doesn´t hear voices (yet) but we´ve all heard of these cases too. TPTB / the illuminati use occult rituals and whitchcraft etc to bring out demons - often combined with mind control programming.
My friend is convinced that it´s either demons or some hi tech technology "they" are using to break him down.

I don't hear voices, either, but I do believe there are entities that try to communicate w/ us. Some of these entities are dark, but some are really good & are trying to help. "They" have convinced everyone that all such entities are demons, so people are afraid to communicate w/ them. It's funny how the disinfo campaign has been going on for thousands of years w/ respect to certain beings :-P

[sherlok]

To: lostworld
RE: your post #16

My opinion:

We live in an upside down world. The PTBs are not good people.
So, bad things do happen to good people and good things do
happen to bad people. But, the more you know about what's
going on, the better chance you have of keeping yourself safe and
sane.

I am not a Tom Cruise fan however I do feel he is correct in
condemning psychiatry.

You've apparently studied a great deal about mind control. It is the
psychiatric community in various guises that is the principle
perpetrator of that activity.

My advice is to get your friend away from any and all psychiatric
connections and treatments and drugs ASAP. Especially any drugs.

[faulconandsnowjob]

Yes, I believe psychiatry is pretty bad, too. A family member was the victim of electro-shock "therapy," a practice that they are quietly trying to revive. That is pure evil, imo. Anyway, all the Prozac & other drugs help TPTB keep the people under control, no doubt.

[lostworld]

Sherlok and Faulcon,
Thanks for all the info and great advice!

I know I wrote very much on this but when it affects your every day life to the extent that is has - of course you react to it.

I am worried for my friend. He doesn´t believe in psychiatry either and just goes there to have someone to talk to besides me.

He´s not on any drugs. He thinks that they make him worse so he refuses.

But I don´t know how to help him further. He wants to know where we can find help and I just don´t know. Sometimes he´s even talking about excorsism but I´m not sure, maybe that just make things worse...

[sherlok]

^ When something seems stuck I find that pushing in the other direction
often works.

I suggest your friend stop looking for help for himself and start looking
for ways he could help others.

[lostworld]

Faulcon, thanks for sharing on your experience in relationships.

I also know who my soulmate is, and that´s probably why it doesn´t work with any other. My soulmate and I are very different. So there is this struggle thing with me wanting to "save him" and him being shallow and indifferent to my arguments. I can´t save him when he doesn´t want to. And I can´t be there to protect him from the wrong people that he surrounds himself with, anymore. I always want to protect him from his bad judgement but I have now learned that this is not my job.

I am totally convinced that the soulmate doesn´t have to be the person that you end up living "the happy life" with - quite the contrary, many times the soulmate is the ones trying to educate you, pushing you to greater things AND pushing your buttons like crazy. Me and my soulmate have a kind of lovehate relationship that never ends. It´s been going on for over 10 years. I have forced myself to let him go cause he has got to find his own way and learn from his mistakes - without me catching his fall everytime. Maybe I has been the one stopping him from learning by always trying to save and protect him? Probably.

So, I´m backing off. I don´t think he will learn what I´ve tried to "teach" him. Not in this life though. And even if he did, he would never give me the satisfaction of being right

Since my soulmate always has wanted to control & tame me (not in an abusive way though) after stepping out of the situation I have been able to see more clearly on the whole thing (maybe I was mind controlled? ). He isn´t jealous or "controlling" like the way you might think - he wants to control my spirit more, if that makes any sense. It´s all mind games etc. We match each other intellectually, both have strong personalities etc and that makes it even harder. No one "wins".

My soulmate can shift his mood in 5 minutes, and then back again. He is very smart and manipulative. And he has no empathy. At my worst, I know that I can be that way too (for good reasons of course - besides the empathy thing.) He uses "his powers" for bad things though, incl. for hurting me (again not in a violent way!)
Recent developments and more strange behaviour has made me research (of course) this too.
Now, as I have backed out of the situation and we no longer have any contact I suddenly am given answers "from everywhere" to all the things that didn´t make any sense to me before.
I now know that I have been dealing with a person with a narcissistic / psychopathic personality. And if this isn´t a mental-disorder thing only another option remains. He´s on the evil side... Therefore my reasoning on attraction between good and evil (opposites attract) that I posted on my welcome-thread on PID earlier today (before seeing you here).

Anyway. my soulmate is lost for me (at least for now) and I think that there is a meaning to that. I´m meant to do other things than to just watch over him...

[lostworld]

Oct 30, 2008 0:09:16 GMT -5 sherlok said:

^ When something seems stuck I find that pushing in the other direction
often works.

I suggest your friend stop looking for help for himself and start looking
for ways he could help others.

Good advice Sherlok!
I´ve been thinking about that too. Since his interested in the same things as us, I would like to activate him some more. The best thing would be if he ended up as an activist of some sort. Problem is he doesn´t have the energy for anything...
I´m trying though. First thing is that I will help him setting up his computer so I can post him links etc. Then we´ll see.
A little step at the time...

Thank you so much Sherlok!! Appreciate it.

Now, enough with the personal problems and "let´s get to work"!
I will soon be posting some more interesting stuff on this thread so be sure to check it out.

[faulconandsnowjob]

"Sometimes he´s even talking about excorsism but I´m not sure, maybe that just make things worse..."

Maybe a dark entity has attached itself to him. He may not need an official exorcism, but he could ask for help in getting rid of it.

Anyway, I usually find that going w/ the flow works best for me. There are so many times that things didn't work out the way I wanted, but it ended up being for the best, & I am glad they happened that way now. I think it's really hard for us to know the greater plan, so we just have to trust :-)

Your soulmate could absolutely be a "teacher" for you this time around :-)

[lostworld]

Oct 30, 2008 1:09:39 GMT -5 @faulconandsnowjob said:

"Sometimes he´s even talking about excorsism but I´m not sure, maybe that just make things worse..."

Maybe a dark entity has attached itself to him. He may not need an official exorcism, but he could ask for help in getting rid of it.

Anyway, I usually find that going w/ the flow works best for me. There are so many times that things didn't work out the way I wanted, but it ended up being for the best, & I am glad they happened that way now. I think it's really hard for us to know the greater plan, so we just have to trust :-)

Your soulmate could absolutely be a "teacher" for you this time around :-)

Thanks for your support Faulcon!

I also try to "go with the flow" more instead of this constant fighting with the current... It´s not so easy though when you sometimes feel that you´re in this battlefield and new players constantly is sent in to challenge you or fight you.

Anyway - let´s leave these worries behind for now and focus on our work

[beatlies]

Oct 6, 2008 18:37:53 GMT -5 lostworld said:

I really like this song with Beyoncé and Shakira but the video has bothered me ever since I saw it the first time.

It has an eerie illuminati feel to it...
The way they morph into each other, switching places - "now you see her now you don´t".
The clone. The double. The twins. (Especially from 02.05 in the videoclip).

The whole video just feels strange, occult and filled with symbols and subliminal messages.


Look at the pics. Is that Arabic or Hebrew letters in the background? I know the song has that kind of music in it, but is there more to it?


Beyoncé and Shakira - "Beautiful Liar"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wISKe3zoBSw


comments:

80sucks (1 day ago)
They look alike.. ha

cloud007jerry (5 days ago)
its like two ancient goddess..lol..sweet

fr3shp1mp3tt3 (1 week ago)
It's amazing how they made them look so much alike

Ryan124816 (2 weeks ago)
Pause at 2.44 and you can see theyre btoh Shakira. Maybe Beyonce cant belly dance, I dont know

NicoleLynn74 (1 month ago)
they both look alike

scrott18 (2 months ago)
it gets confusing if ur jsut tryin to watch one of the,, they switch and its like whoa

KonigLu (3 months ago)
haha they look like twins!








[a href="They also replace people with doubles. For many years they recruited look-alikes who would serve their ends. Now they are perfecting cloning technology that will let them replace anybody. "]They also replace people with doubles. For many years they recruited look-alikes who would serve their ends. Now they are perfecting cloning technology that will let them replace anybody.

[/a] (The Illuminati by Abner Whateley)[/b]
[/quote]

I've researched that language on the wall in the video.

It is ancient and no longer used. It is the Aramaic-based written
language of ancient Persia, that was discarded in favor of Arabic script for the written form of the oral Persian language during the Arab/Moslem invasion of Persia (present-day Iran).

Perhaps a clue reference to the Persian Immortals system of doppleganger-esque replacements used by the ancient Persian army (I've discussed this here on other threads and they were mentioned in an NIR thread). Or perhaps a reference to the US covert operations war against Iran or both or neither.

[lostworld]

Was Sting replaced or "just" mind controlled?

I love a lot of both the Police and Stings music. I remember at some point in the 80' s that I noticed how Sting looked a bit different. I thought he had had a nose job. But there was never any gossip at all written about it like I expected...

Anyway, remembering that and going through some pics of Sting I can still see the same thing that I saw then. He changed.

Btw it´s very hard to find old, good pics from the 80' s of the Police and Sting to make some comparisons. For such a big group and artist that seems very strange. Neither Stings nor The Polices official websites contain any pics either

Anyway, I think he might have been replaced sometime after the Police split (1984) and his first soloalbum release 1985.



Some comparisons



















Sting in "Dune" (1984)




Some more pics of the real Sting





Pics of Sting / Fing after 1985
The Police split in 1984 and Sting released his first soloalbum in 1985. Great time for a replacement...


Rolling Stones cover 1988



Hard Rock Café, New York 1989



Rainforest Foundation Press Conference 1990



New York City Earth Day International Awards 1993



I don´t know about you, but that Sting from 89 and 90 doesn´t even look like Sting!! What is that??
Sting from 93 however is probably the same Sting as we see today.



Stings work and persona now seems to have a lot of similarities to that of Bonos (whose name also has been mentioned in these kind of discussions ). Their political commitment, interest for environmental issues etc.

Then there is the Police and Courtney Cox / Fourtney connection - she is / was the cousin of Stewart Copeland of the Police.

In 1984, Courteney Cox worked at F.B.I. (Frontier Booking International) a concert booking agency in New York run by Ian Copeland (brother of Stewart of the Police) and a relative of Cox's. (IMBd)


Since I´m not all convinced of Sting being replaced but still feel that there is "something about him" I had to research this some more.

If you´ve been reading my thread here on this forum "I sold my soul to rock'n'roll" you can follow my arguments how the music industry is filled with the NWO agenda, illuminati symbolism etc and how they besides replacements very much, in fact MORE, uses mind control techniques to keep their power over people. After applying what I now know about their programmes of mind control and their symbolisms for it on Sting I now very much consider the fact that he´s under heavy mind control.

Same as with George Michael, another possible victim of mind control, Sting still has his unique voice left.


Typical standard MK symbolism: half face illuminated (= split mind/alters/mindcontrol) one eye (one eye = the all seeing eye ) multiple images of the same person, general focusing in on the head, black and white (referring to dark and light - changes to good and evil alter/duality/different alters), in the sex-slaves the same colors appear - the so called zebra symbolism with clothing in black and white, black and white stripes, zebrapatterns etc ( many stripes = the different alters / two colours, black and white = duality, different alters, good & evil.).


Now let´s check out these albumcovers:

This is Stings first soloalbum - The Dream of the Blue Turtles from 1985. This might be when he was replaced. I´m not sure though, I´ll have to check some videos etc first BUT - here is where the illuminati / MK mind control symbolism starts.




Here you find the classic MK symbolism: half face illuminated, the one eye and the black and white colours.
Also notice that the name "Sting" is split into fractions / several parts (representing his split personality, several different alters).


Consider Me Gone
From the album The Dream of the Blue Turtles

There were rooms of forgiveness
In the house that we share
But the space has been emptied
Of whatever was there
There were cupboards of patience
There were shelf loads of care
But whoever came calling
Found nobody there
After today, consider me gone

Roses have thorns and shining waters mud
And cancer lurks deep in the sweetest bud
Clouds and eclipses stain the moon and the sun
And history reeks of the wrongs we have done
After today, consider me gone

I've spent too many years at war with myself
The doctor has told me it's no good for my health
To search for perfection is all very well
But to look for heaven is to live here in hell

After today, consider me gone




Sting - "Fields of gold" (1994)







Here you - again - find the half face illuminated, the one eye and the black and white colours. The "harmless little red decoration" down on the right side is in fact a serpent that represents the snake (=the reptilerace, the knowledge of man´s creation the illuminati wants to hide from us). The snake is red which represent blood (= bloodline, the 12 reptile family lines that rule the world). The albums name "fields of gold" is written on the side. If you turn the album so you read "fields of gold" from it´s proper angle you see that the date (refering to the hits widerange)1984-1994, now is upside down when "fields of gold" is placed as it should be. Upside down 1984-1994 becomes a number containing the digits 666 (the number of the beast) !


I swear, I wasn´t even looking for this number thing, or the serpent (just the half face, the one eye and the black and white) - it was just there once I thoroughly studied the album!
So even with just some basic facts about illuminati symbolism and a little numerology (which is very much practiced in their operations) you can find these things yourself! It´s there in plane site in front of us, if we only know what to look for. This of course is also an "inside joke" of theirs, how stupid we, the masses, are for not seeing these things. These things are not coincidenses - they are real, and it´s scary...

Backside cover:
Basically the same thing as front - half face illuminated, the one eye and the black and white colours.
Once again you see the red serpent, this time a bit bigger and more eyecatching. The upside down 666 reference is gone though... The date is there yes, but not to be read as in the cover.

As for Stings lyrics I haven´t had the time to look them over. Some titles seems to be worth investigating though, seems that there can be a lot symbolisms and hidden codes etc in his songs.





Over to that dear wife of his, Trudie Styler, married since 1992 together since 1981. I´ve never liked this woman for some reason. Some people you just dislike even if they haven´t done or said anything to you, it´s just a feeling you get about them...

Anyway, this sex-maniac woman who has lead Sting into tantrasex, swinger- and stripclubs and God knows it all - if mindcontrolled - then obviously she is his handler (like the relation between John Lennon & Yoko Ono too for instance).
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=20304
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=3637
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=2874

Like with Yoko, when Trudie came into the picture the band split.

Trudie also likes to play matchmaker and introduced the now newly divorced Madonna (another mind controlled mega artist / sex-kitten) and Guy Ritchie to eachother over a private dinner she held. Trudie & Sting are also the godparents of Madonnas and Guys offspring Rocco (named after a porn star).




Sting could have had any woman that he wanted, being the supernova he was / is. Why would he go for Trudie? I don´t mean to sound mean ( well, maybe a little) but she is not a beauty in my opinion, and even if it´s the inside that counts etc normally men in his position/the music industry tend to fall for girls that are much younger than themselves and/or models. Maybe Sting isn´t that shallow then? I don´t think that´s the answer...

And they´ve been together since 1981, come on – how many couples that´s been together for 27 years are making out like teenagers ? No, she´s got her man exactly where she wants him, in a constant ”sexgod” alter state, always attentive – the dream of any woman, but not a reality as we all know (no offense guys). This is not a normal behaviour for a man or a relationship! That´s it.


More coming up soon on Trudie Styler...

[lostworld]

Oct 30, 2008 16:39:55 GMT -5 beatlies said:

I've researched that language on the wall in the video.

It is ancient and no longer used. It is the Aramaic-based written
language of ancient Persia, that was discarded in favor of Arabic script for the written form of the oral Persian language during the Arab/Moslem invasion of Persia (present-day Iran).

Perhaps a clue reference to the Persian Immortals system of doppleganger-esque replacements used by the ancient Persian army (I've discussed this here on other threads and they were mentioned in an NIR thread). Or perhaps a reference to the US covert operations war against Iran or both or neither.

Hi Beatlies,
so happy to see you on this thread !

What you found out is just amazing and very interesting - I´m stunned and impressed. Don´t know how you do it...

Anyway, big thanks!