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Post by The Mask on Nov 20, 2010 17:18:42 GMT -5
How good are you? How good are you at identifying real vs. double?
Try this one. KISS lead guitarist Ace Frehley(no makeup):
Same guy in both videos? Why or why not?
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Post by artemis on Nov 20, 2010 17:25:38 GMT -5
All the KISS members were replaced, right? And not just once, but 2wice, if not more times.
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Post by The Mask on Nov 20, 2010 18:03:16 GMT -5
Yes, Ive stated that before but I'd like some opinions on if these two particular guys are the same guy and why.
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Post by treegenus on Nov 22, 2010 11:54:02 GMT -5
That's a tough one, although in the second video, the guy seems more reserved or low key and doesn't laugh much like in the first video, that could be because he is supposedly off drugs and that changes a personality. The voice is slightly, slightly different but again that happens with people and their voices when they have a flu or are depressed or something. Maybe it's just not the range but more a monotone, semi-defeated type of speaking voice? I give up! Couldn't bet $ if I had to at this point.
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Post by The Mask on Nov 22, 2010 13:38:11 GMT -5
Good points treegenus.
Take a look again if you don't mind and look at the nose and tell me what you think.
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Post by treegenus on Nov 22, 2010 14:34:05 GMT -5
I see what you mean! It's not like when someone has rhinoplasty for a large nose or one with a bump that they have removed. In the first video, the nose isn't unsightly but more like it might have been slightly broken as a child and shifted ENTIRELY to the left of his face. The second video shows a perfectly centered nose. To play devil's advocate here, he might have undergone cosmetic surgery to correct that because that would be considered a deviated septum and might have caused problems breathing. Now if we could only do an iris scan or have before/after fingerprints, but hey fingerprints wouldn't help (if the film Seconds has any validity to it)  . |
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Post by artemis on Nov 22, 2010 17:18:16 GMT -5
Physical differences/nose, shorter neck (at least this is what I see in the 1st vid), more nasal voice, a playful attitude and charisma compared to the guy in the 2nd vid. I am not genius from the tree but Im trying ... |
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Post by The Mask on Nov 26, 2010 10:07:21 GMT -5
Jerry Seinfeld....Replaced or Not Replaced?  |
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Post by artemis on Nov 26, 2010 10:15:32 GMT -5
That chin is clearly showing that our guy was replaced. Any idea how long was the real JERRY around? Do we have another case of persona?
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Post by The Mask on Nov 26, 2010 10:41:50 GMT -5
I agree with you about the chin. It's the first thing I noticed also. I believe the real Jerry had a period doing standup.  |
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Post by artemis on Nov 26, 2010 10:46:39 GMT -5
As far as I know the pic is from around 1977-1978. What happened then? The real Jerry "sunk" and was replaced with another stand up comedian/FERRY?
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Post by The Mask on Nov 26, 2010 14:24:35 GMT -5
I think he was replaced shortly after that. Below is Jerry in that 1977 video clip. Notice the New York accent and the thicker hair. Now, "Jerry", 4 years later and the hair is thinner and the New York accent has suddenly disappeared.  |
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Post by glassonion on Nov 27, 2010 5:27:58 GMT -5
Seems like the same guy to me. The New York accent is definitely still there, although he clearly softened it as he aged and went for a wider audience. A haircut, a little aging...that's all I see here with the two videos. As for the current Jerry, that deserves more study. Both of these two videos display a certain goofiness and facial expressions that disappeared over time. Could be explained by coaching and refinement. Need more comparisons on this one.
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Post by artemis on Nov 27, 2010 5:59:34 GMT -5
Aging doesnt make one's chin to disappear for instance.
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Post by artemis on Nov 27, 2010 7:27:28 GMT -5
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