Cher

[artemis]

U mean WARREN BEATTY and his daughter STEPHANIE?

[John]

Dec 2, 2010 14:25:58 GMT -5 artemis said:

U mean WARREN BEATTY and his daughter STEPHANIE?

Kathlyn is her name

"Kathlyn is the couple's eldest child. Warren Beatty and Annette Bening also have a son, Benjamin, 15, and daughters, Isabel, 13, and Ella, 10."

Nov 16, 2010 14:36:02 GMT -5 artemis said:

Trying to open their eyes is useless. When I said "CHER" is actually a tranny, they started to call me names. Obviously, I gave up.

You can't talk someone out of being a pyjama person, the saying "you can't wake someone pretending to be asleep" is the one for them. They can get angry as well. I live with one so I should know. The red pill isn't for most people.

[artemis]

Ouch...

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1338296/Cher-uses-facelift-tape-trick-London-Burlesque-premiere.html

[treegenus]

The photo of FHER with the black wig is revealing IMO. The face looks like it's been through some electrolysis....like Tranny...beard removal anyone? With all the replacements, you'd think they'd have sense enough to have decent looking ones out there!

[beatlies]

Dec 17, 2010 13:18:14 GMT -5 treegenus said:

The photo of FHER with the black wig is revealing IMO. The face looks like it's been through some electrolysis....like Tranny...beard removal anyone? With all the replacements, you'd think they'd have sense enough to have decent looking ones out there!

A friend discussing the new Fher-Aguilera movie "Burlesque" said that you can actually see weid wrinkles bunching up along the plastic surgery (prosthetics/latex mask?) edges of Fher's head and face.

[John]

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1338296/Cher-64-shows-needed-facelift-tape-Burlesque-premiere.html

here's the Burlesque review, a classic:
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1339316/Burlesque-This-like-X-Factor--sleazier.html

"The choreography looks like a Las Vegas hooker’s attempt to plagiarise Bob Fosse, and is so atrociously edited that you can’t tell if anyone can dance or not.

But anyone who witnessed her ­startlingly crude, pre-watershed ­performance in The X Factor final will know her approach to dance is to wave herself at the camera in as ­sexually provocative a manner as ­possible, and her idea of a duet is to shout in a rival’s face.

Super-strident and transparently self-obsessed, she has all the fresh-faced, country girl ­innocence of Shane Warne.

The story tells how the world’s least likely ingenue turns around the ­fortunes of a destitute club in Los Angeles, run by a woman who appears to have siphoned off all the profits into tacky costumes, Botox and ­cosmetic surgery — that’s Cher, looking like a man in drag and sounding like one.

The scene where Cher becomes a caring, surrogate mother to Aguilera is a camp collector’s item; it’s clear neither woman can stand the other."

I am interested in Cher being a man inside, was that the same as Courtney Cox, and Brook Shields?

[test1]

I thought Jamie Lee Curtis was a hottie, until my friend pointed out she was a man at birth!, Doh.

[treegenus]

Dec 18, 2010 15:58:01 GMT -5 @test1 said:

I thought Jamie Lee Curtis was a hottie, until my friend pointed out she was a man at birth!, Doh.

So doesn't it sound fishy that the male child to female thing with Jamie Lee Curtis seems similar to what Shiloh Pitt-Jolie is MKing through now too? (And most possibly what Chastiny/Chaz Bono was indoctrinated to create, too?) Just a thought.

[lucy]

But there are times when I watched Tony Curtis and thought he acted rather effeminate, and there, the man/daughter....You do see Fher the former man, and "Chaz" the former daughter...how pathetic is this?

And the Shiloh thing is very disturbing....

[beatlies]

This is the group "Coven" famous for "One Tin Soldier." The woman lead singer sounds like "Cher." She and the others
in Coven are self-proclaimed Satanists. They started the band in 1968. Fher did a cover of "One Tin Soldier" and presented a well-known animated film to go with it on the "Sonny and Cher" TV show. I am wondering if this Coven woman served as a Fher or at least as a Cher vocal imposter:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa6PjTZVZvg






Fher "One Tin Soldier":

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg84L84uop8



Coven "One Tin Soldier" (1973) released by MGM---

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxQUH7EVqH4



Here is Coven's 2nd version of One Tin Soldier (originally a 1969 single by Original Caste). This was a moderate hit in 1973 and again in 1974. It's a bit faster than Coven's original Warner Brothers release from 1971, but very similiar (it was arranged and conducted by the same person). I actually like this version better.

In the 1973 Coven version her voice sounds speeded up and higher, as if they are trying to make her sound less like Cher/Fher.

Why would they release an (inferior) redo of their own hit song just two years later?


Coven's first, Cher-ish, rendition of "One Tin Soldier" from 1971, the score to the hit movie "Billy Jack":

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qswm7lHp7oY&feature=related




The original song, by its composers, a Canadian
group called "The Caste":

www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7jHp7OchP0

[artemis]

Its all too blatant to have been a coincidence. I believe she was a FHER at one time, at least vocally.

[beatlies]

Coven (band)

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Coven

Cover to Coven's 1969 album Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls


depicting original band members.
Background information
Origin Chicago, Illinois, United States
Genres Shock rock, Psychedelic rock
Years active 1969–1975, 2007-2008
Labels Mercury, Warner Bros. Records, MGM, Buddah, Nevoc Music
Members
Jinx Dawson
Oz Osborne
Steve Ross
Rick Durrett
John Hobbs
Chris Neilsen

Coven is an American rock band formed in the late 1960s, composed of vocalist Jinx Dawson, bassist Oz Osborne (not to be confused with Ozzy Osbourne of Black Sabbath), Chris Neilsen on guitar, Rick Durrett and later John Hobbs on keyboards, and drummer Steve Ross. They are recognized as being the band that first introduced the "Sign of the Horns" to rock and pop culture (as seen on their 1969 debut album release Witchcraft).

Contents [hide]
1 Top 40 hit
2 Jinx Dawson
3 Recording contract
4 Satanic acts
5 Unwanted publicity
6 Good fortune
7 1990s
8 2000s
9 Infamous quotes about Coven
10 Discography
11 References
12 External links

[edit] Top 40 hit

They had a top 40 hit on Warner Bros. Records with "One Tin Soldier," written and composed by Dennis Lambert and Brian Potter which was also used as the theme song to the 1971 movie Billy Jack. Jinx Dawson, sang the song at a 1971 session with the film's orchestra as part of the film soundtrack, and asked that Coven be listed on the recording and film, not her name as a solo artist.

[edit] Jinx Dawson

Dawson was a native of Indianapolis, Indiana. The difficult delivery of twins, one dead in the womb, was performed by a Dr. Jinks, so her model mother named her Jinx. She began studying opera and the occult, following in her family's secret society footsteps. She, Ross, and Osborne formed Coven in Chicago in the late 1960s.[1] In 1967 to 1968 they toured on concert bills with Jimmy Page's Yardbirds, the Alice Cooper band, and Vanilla Fudge, among many others. Dawson began and ended each Coven concert with the sign of the horns, being the first to introduce this hand sign into rock pop culture.

[edit] Recording contractThey were signed to Mercury Records, where they put out their first album, Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls in 1969. The music on the album was considered underground rock; what made it distinctive was the heavy emphasis on diabolical subject matter, including songs such as "The White Witch of Rose Hall" (based on the story of Annie Palmer), "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge", and "Dignitaries of Hell". The album concluded with a 13 minute track of chanting and Satanic prayers called "Satanic Mass" (written by their producer, Bill Traut, of Dunwich Productions).[2] Also included inside the album, was Coven's infamous Black Mass poster, showing members of the group displaying the sign of the horns as they prepared for a Satanic ritual over the naked altar.

This is the first photographed use of the Horned Hand Salute and the Inverted Cross, as well as the first use of the phrase Hail Satan, in rock music pop culture. They also made a video for the title track of their third album, Blood on the Snow in 1974, seven years before MTV started in 1981.

[edit] Satanic acts

According to Dawson, "The satanic thing actually was something we were interested in and were studying at the time. When you're younger, you're looking for answers, and a lot of members of the band were looking into the same books at the same time. We studied it, we practiced it." This content was considered highly unusual for the time. Starting with their first contract with Mercury in 1969, the Coven members signed all their record contracts each in their own blood.[citation needed]

Modern Satanism and Satanic practices are usually described today as originating with Anton LaVey and the Church of Satan (founded in 1966). However, Coven's first album, and some of the 1960s trends and styles associated with it (reflected in the Esquire article mentioned below), are an indication that there were also other unique, and sometimes more underground, trends within Satanism. Coven and Anton LaVey did actually almost cross paths, at the October 31, 1969, Detroit Black Arts Festival, which also included Arthur Brown, Peter Hurkos, Timothy Leary, and numerous others. While Coven did perform, Anton LaVey, although scheduled, did not appear[3]

[edit] Unwanted publicity

Then called heavy underground rock, Coven is now considered pioneers of dark heavy metal and gothic rock.[4] Unwanted publicity came to the band in the form of a sensationalistic Esquire magazine issue entitled "Evil Lurks in California" (Esquire, March 1970), which linked counterculture interest in the occult to Charles Manson and the Tate-La Bianca murders, while also mentioning the Witchcraft album and its Black Mass material[5] As a result of this unwanted publicity, Mercury withdrew the album from circulation.[6]

[edit] Good fortuneLuck returned to Dawson when Tom Laughlin asked her to record the "One Tin Soldier" song for his Billy Jack movie. It was written by Dennis Lambert and Brian Potter, and originally released in 1969 by the Canadian group The Original Caste (#34). Coven's recording charted three times, first in 1971 (#26), in 1973 (#79), and a re-entry of the original version in 1974 (#73) on the Billboard Hot 100, and was a top 10 hit in the Cash Box chart. The song was named #1 Most Requested Song in 1971 and 1973 by American Radio Broadcasters. Coven released a self-titled album in 1972 which featured "One Tin Soldier" along with "Nightengale" penned by Dawson, which charted as a hot pick on Billboard & Cashbox; a third album, Blood on the Snow, was put out on Buddah Records in 1974. One of the first music videos ever made directly for an album title song was produced by Disney Studios.[7]

[edit] 1990sIn 1990 Coven appeared in the film Heaven Can Help with Dawson in a starring role. She wrote all the music and, along with original drummer Steve Ross, new members were added to the Coven which appeared in the film.

Dawson continued to pursue a career in acting with a minor, uncredited role in the movie Cool World.[8] She returned to music after several years as caregiver for her terminally ill father. She is set to film a PBS Special called The All time Biggest Movie Title Songs.[9]

[edit] 2000sOn November 5 2007, Dawson announced via her MySpace page that three of the original Coven members were planning to reform the group and record a new studio album to "finish what they started". She added that the band were "dying to tour". In May 2008, Coven released a new CD, Metal Goth Queen~Out of the Vault with music spanning decades. Some of the guest musicians on this CD included Michael Monarch, formerly of Steppenwolf, Glenn Cornick, formerly of Jethro Tull and Tommy Bolin, formerly of Deep Purple, in some of his last recordings.[10]

[edit] Infamous quotes about Coven This section does not cite any references or sources.
Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (December 2010)

1970 Rolling Stone Magazine Black Sabbath album review: "something like England's answer to Coven."
1998 Lords of Chaos Book: "Coven deserve greater attention for their overtly diabolic album Witchcraft presented in a stunning gatefold sleeve." King Diamond tells of finding inspiration from Coven's lead vocalist Jinx: "An amazing singer, her voice her range---they had something about them that I liked."
2002 The Witch Book,Witches in Pop Culture:"Many rock bands identify with the image from early Black Sabbath and Coven to Blood Coven, Coven 13,---But the original band Coven, formed in the 1960's,was one of the first if not the first,to focus almost exclusively on occult-oriented music.Coven's LP Witchcraft was a big success at the time."
2002 KISStory Book: "When you consider the image that Kiss would later develop, they were not the first band Bogart approached with the idea of painting up, having approached Jinx Dawson and her band Coven in the early 70's only for that idea to be rejected by the band."
2007 Terrorizer Magazine:Prog Special "Black Prog"-"Months before Sabbath's self titled debut, Coven released an equally brilliant, groundbreaking album called Witchcraft.One rock innovation increasingly credited to Coven is popularizing the 'Sign of the Horns'now recognized as a universal rock salute."
2008 Classic Rock Magazine: "The band consisted of proto-goth goddess Jinx Dawson"
2009 Metalhammer Magazine:"The seeds can be traced to the late '60's sewn by arguably the first occult rock band. Are we talking Black Sabbath? No. We speak in fact of legendary Chicago based innovators Coven."
[edit] DiscographyWitchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls (1969)
Coven (1972)
Blood On The Snow (1974)
Metal Goth Queen~Out of the Vault (2008)
[edit] References1.^ Occult Rock Library: Coven
2.^ WFMU's Beware of the Blog: Kiss the Goat
3.^ Black Arts Festival site; Another site
4.^ See Witches USA 1971, The Occult Explosion 1972, Lords of Chaos 1999, Lucifer Rising 1999.
5.^ "Have you heard this new album?" says a Strip hippie. "It's called Witchcraft. Destroys minds and reaps souls it says on the jacket...full of Black Mass stuff." Esquire, March 1970, page 119
6.^ Relevance: Then and Now
7.^ Mr. Blues Train: Metal
8.^ IMDB
9.^ Jinx Dawson, chapter of Little Stars
10.^ MySpace: Official CovenJinx Dawson Site 3 1968–2007, Blog Entry under NEVOC Musick Press Release
[edit] External links"Official Site 1/3 - The Goth Queen"
"Official Site 2/3 - Jinx & The Coven, 1968–2007"
"Official Site 3/3 - Jinx Dawson, 1968–2007"
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[artemis]

The soundtrack for CHASTITY



The upside down FHER, the "evil alter ego", could be a hint to the real CHER and what happened to her. The position of the pic - lying under/underground, a skull next to her and the skulls she has on her crown - are definitely suggesting death.



And dont u think her torso looks damm mannish?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7-AawIf9uQ

Compare to this vid from 1966

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQlhH6tDBc8

[msmoonlite]

The upside down FHER, the "evil alter ego", could be a hint to the real CHER and what happened to her. The position of the pic - lying under/underground, a skull next to her and the skulls she has on her crown - are definitely suggesting death.
From Artemis.

You are right about her looking mannish. Her head is huge. Fher also looks like she is in a coffin. It looks like a mock tarot card. Would she be the queen of wands?? The queen represents basic instincts, could she have an instinct of her death?

[artemis]

Thats right, like she's in a coffin, 6 feet under and like a tarot card. If she knew she was about to be offed... Could be, what to tell more?