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Post by beatlies on Dec 18, 2009 0:33:26 GMT -5
not sure if his has been mentioned, but doesn't ABBA mean father in Hebrew?? That was the point of Reply #5.  It means "father" in Aramaic, not Hebrew, and may be related to a New Testament passage (see my above post). |
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Post by beatlies on Dec 18, 2009 0:35:47 GMT -5
This is Frida in the ABBA years.  Look at her eyes. They are HAZEL. Now here's a photo of post-ABBA Frida.  And her eyes are BLUE or even GREEN.  Can the eyes just change like that? We have a similar case with Paul's and Faul's eyes color difference, don't we?    January 1979---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- July 1980 "The "new" Frida."Now, if you look at the photo of the guitarist and one of the founders of the group, Bjorn Ulvaeus in the ABBA years, you'll see that his eyes don't seem blue or grey, right? They are brown, right?  But here...  And here...  They do look so. And I have one question for you here: сould the upper photo of "Hootenanny singers" (the band Bjorn worked with in the 60's) be the case of PHOTO TAMPERING?  So, you are saying that Agnetha, Frida and Bjorn have all been imposter-replaced? The total-group replaCIAment seems to have occured with the Beatles in August-September 1966, and possibly with the Rolling Stones as well. |
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Post by lostworld on Dec 18, 2009 8:37:12 GMT -5
This is the article, which started the ball rolling. allabba.blogspot.com/2006/06/agnetha-fltskog-is-dead.html"...At this time, the terrible event takes place, which has been covered up since 1979, but hinted in the ABBA songs and on the ABBA covers made later. Agnetha Fältskog is murdered in her home in December 1979! Her place in ABBA is instead positioned by a lookalike..." The article about Agnetha being possibly replaced is not something new. It is the only "survived" AWR article. I remember once I found a site with picture comparisons. It was a long time ago, there's no site anymore. With his "ironic theory" the author pointed out the possible clues and ABBA's connection to "Beatles". Defenitely not all what he wrote is true, because he relied on the hints, but in general... I'm very sad to see that what this Swedish nonsense guy wrote on his website has taken these proportions! This guy is NOT a researcher, not involved with these kind of things at all. This is the website where it's from: www.frojmark.net/www.frojmark.net/hammarlund/texter/index.htmAbsolutely non-serious! The whole website is all about joking. It's not about conspiracies in any way. I am Swedish and I've checked everything there. Most importantly - this is not an article. It's very unfortunate that people believe this... I will contact this guy so hopefully it will get deleted, at least in English. But if - regardless of this guy's text - you still think that Agnetha and other members were replaced, that's another thing. IMO none of the ABBA members were replaced though. Not a chance. They look and sound exactly the same. Also, there's absolutely no reason for them to be replaced. When dealing with this subject it's very important not to get carried away. Not everybody is replaced people... Agnetha always had a terrible fear of flying + didn't want to leave her kids. So that she was tired of touring is nothing strange. She cut her hair in the late 70's. Nothing strange with that either. After that it's all natural aging, cause Agnetha never had any plastic surgery. Also, she still has the same beautiful voice as always. Plus, a key regarding replacements, her personality never changed. And that goes for the other members of ABBA too. They're all the same. The one and only Agnetha Fältskog, before and after 1979  |
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Post by thewinged on Dec 18, 2009 11:12:12 GMT -5
So, you are saying that Agnetha, Frida and Bjorn have all been imposter-replaced? The total-group replaCIAment seems to have occured with the Beatles in August-September 1966, and possibly with the Rolling Stones as well. Yes, I do. Though the doubles are too perfect, the differences are clearly seen. I suspect that Bjorn was replaced too, however, I need more research on him. The feeling was that he held Benny under control or something like that. Lostword, I'm totally dissapointed in you. I don't know if you are working for someone or really blind. If you can't see the difference after all this work at "Stepford Wives"...   |
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Post by lostworld on Dec 18, 2009 21:46:24 GMT -5
Lostword, I'm totally dissapointed in you. I don't know if you are working for someone or really blind. If you can't see the difference after all this work at "Stepford Wives"... So I'm "working for someone" just cause I don't believe that Agnetha or that the whole ABBA was replaced??   Well, if that's what you believe I really think you do need to be more objective about your research. It's very easy to get carried away when posting about this. Suddenly "everybody's" replaced and that's hardly the case. All the factors I mention in my post matters. You chose to ignore that. That's disappointing IMO. In fact, I think this is internet at it's worse when that pseudo post from that silly guy's website is coming to "fact". Really disturbing. I've been seeing ABBA in the press and on TV here in Sweden all my life, ever since I was a child. If anything changed about them, both physically and mentally (again, don't forget about the classic change in personality, which didn't happen here) I think I would know. Especially since I already as a child could sense these kind of things and saw a change in Sting and others (a change that can be both due to replacement and due to mind control). Mind control is the over all theme. The replacements are a sub category within this. So, many more are mind controlled than replaced IMO. Like George Michael for instance. I used to think that he was replaced. But there are a lot of things that indicates that he's "just" mind controlled. So, now I'm not totally convinced that he was replaced anymore. Although I'm still leaning towards that he was. Also, I still think it's much more common that people are being killed off ("accidents" or "suicided") after serving their purpose than that they are replaced. Considering the risk, replacing someone with a (human) double would not be the first choice. And replacing a whole group? Eh, not likely... (Especially not if they're still active.) Replacing someone with a clone or with a synthetic, well that's another thing. That's almost "impossible" to know although we can sometimes sense it anyway, the lack of soul etc. Eye colour? Well, I don't always trust pictures here cause the lightning do change often. In many old pics people's eyes are more darkened for some reason. Fridas original eyecolour (according to herself) has always been green though and Björns are blue. There's plenty of pics of Frida with green eyes in the 70's. And green sometimes, depending on light, do look light brown/hazel. Even blue eyed Agnetha has really dark eyes in some pics. In this video, you see that Frida's eyes can change in colour depending on light. And you see that Björns eyes are blue. "Take a chance on me" (1977) www.dailymotion.com/video/x1aegi_abba-take-a-chance-on-me_musicDuring all the years in interviews and in the media here ABBA has always looked the same, acted the same and sounded the same. That's fact. So, I think you're the one that's blind and needs to be more objective. When it comes to ABBA, there's absolutely nothing to see. It's very easy to see that it's the same people as it's always been. |
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Post by beatlies on Dec 21, 2009 3:28:06 GMT -5
Can we get some audiovisual comparisons to pin this down either way. the biometric markers to discern an imposter, such
as eye distance, skull shape and size, ears, jawline profile,
tragus etc.
Also some speaking voice interviews would be of value.
Thanks,
beatlies
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Post by Paul Bearer on Dec 26, 2009 0:16:58 GMT -5
ABBA were the first pop group I fell in love with. Before that, I was into classical only.
IMO, neither Agnetha nor anyone else has been replaced.
The sadness on the latter albums is because of the breakup of both their marriages.
IMO, their final album - The Visitors - is really their "Sgt Pepper" type album because it took a new direction for them. It had more depth than any other, the enrichment of experience. However, rather ironically, what may have been their best album was the least well received.
According to "The Name Of The Game" by Andrew Oldham, Tony Calder & Colin Irwin, Agnetha and Frida hated each other. Perhaps this animosity between them is what is expressed in the latter album covers and music videos through the increased portayal of aloofness and distance.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Sept 24, 2011 6:32:48 GMT -5
THe original source of the OP article: www.frojmark.net/hammarlund/texter/agnethae.htmScroll to the bottom. It says it is actually a joke. Agnetha's visage changed over the years because of the divorce among other things; formerly relatively outgoing though somewhat shy, she became depressed and withdrawn. |
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Post by artemis on Sept 24, 2011 6:36:14 GMT -5
The link leads u nowhere. That site doesnt exist anymore, so... Sorry but to me its not a joke. U keep sustaining that Agnetha and possibly Frieda have been the same persons all along? Sorry, dude... |
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Post by Paul Bearer on Sept 24, 2011 6:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by artemis on Sept 24, 2011 6:40:57 GMT -5
If u were more careful and read this thread from the very beginning, ud notice that u werent the first to stumble upon that info. Make an effort and read it, the thread has only 2 pages.
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Post by Paul Bearer on Sept 24, 2011 6:59:07 GMT -5
Missed it, sorry. Still don't think any of them were replaced. This site seems a little paranoid. Some celebrities have been replaced but nowhere near the number you claim.
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Post by artemis on Sept 24, 2011 7:13:00 GMT -5
Missed it, sorry. Still don't think any of them were replaced. This site seems a little paranoid. Some celebrities have been replaced but nowhere near the number you claim. Pics speak for themselves. We are not paranoid but if this is ur pov, so far so good. |
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Post by Paul Bearer on Sept 24, 2011 7:39:40 GMT -5
Ok, on the other hand, in the mid-80s, Benny and Bjorn wrote for a group called Gemini, a group they had actually named themselves. As you know, that means twins. They did a full versions of "Just Like That". www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHUHKNKbVqEThe hours pass so slowly
now that he's gone
one day is like another
but they move on
Somehow I have returned
to the land of the living
but badly burned
I never had the chance of
keeping him here
The song of sirens
was to strong in his ear
And when tomorrow calls
Who would pace like a prisoner
within four walls
Just like that
He slipped into my life
As smug as a cat
He was handsome and smart
Walked away with my heart
Just like that
He took a temporary home in my flat
Telling innocent lies
Throwing dust in my eyes
But I led him on
In a way I was the one to deceive
Always accepting the fact he would leave
Just like that
As though he'd only
stopped a while for a chat
But my secrets he learned
Leaving no stone unturned
And when the day is new
the sun in the sky
Who needs the confrontation
saying good-bye
Who needs that kind of strain
When you're born with an instinct
to shun such pain
Just like that
He slipped into my life
As smug as a cat
He was handsome and smart
Walked away with my heart
Just like that
He took a temporary home in my flat
Telling innocent lies
Throwing dust in my eyes
But I led him on
In a way I was the one to deceive
Always accepting the fact he would leave
Just like that
As though he'd only
stopped a while for a chat
But my secrets he learned
Leaving no stone unturned |
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Post by artemis on Sept 24, 2011 15:40:59 GMT -5
Hmmm, interesting info, PB...
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