History of Cloning

[artemis]

Yes, wiki also tells u they are Dutch. Jewish Dutch, they wont tell that. The ROOSEVELTS are Dutch as I am Chinese.

[beatlies]

Speaking of genetic MUTATIONS, the USA government-corporations-military's mass bio-Genocide by uranium/plutonium radiation of MILLIONS OF ITS OWN PEOPLE, AMERICANS domestically by nuclear bombs testing in the western United States, with prevailing winds carrying it eastward across the rest of the country (and Canada and Mexico/the Caribbean nations).
Not just MILLIONS of cancer deaths but birth deformities and other chronic illnesses also:

Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-21-09 02:41 PM
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Cold War Remnant: Cancer for Baby Boomers
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Walter Shapiro

Cold War Remnant: Cancer for Baby Boomers


Even with a half-century's hindsight, the U.S. government's willingness to risk the health of the nation's children seems somewhere between unfathomable and unconscionable.

Between 1951 and 1962, the Atomic Energy Commission detonated more than 100 nuclear bombs in the atmosphere over its Nevada Test Site, just 65 miles from Las Vegas. The radioactive fallout menaced not only the ranchers and the miners unlucky enough to live in that remote area of southern Nevada, but -- as a new study unveiled Tuesday demonstrated -- untold millions of unsuspecting Americans as well. The winds carried Strontium-90, Iodine-129 and other lethal particles across a broad swath of the country. Infants who were bottle-fed, which was then considered the modern approach, were particularly vulnerable to the Strontium-90 that ended up in cows' milk.

In 1961, as John Kennedy was poised to resume atmospheric testing after a two-year moratorium, he met with White House science adviser Jerome Wiesner in the Oval Office one rainy day. The president wondered how fallout reached the earth. Wiesner explained that it was washed out of the clouds by rain. "You mean," Kennedy asked, "it's in the rain out there?" As Wiesner tells it, the president then "looked out the window, looked very sad and didn't say a word for several minutes." Nonetheless JFK, fearful that the Soviet Union might score a nuclear breakthrough, authorized a new round of above-ground testing before negotiating the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in 1963.

With Nov. 9, 2009 ["9-11" also the anniversary of "Kristallncaht the Night of Broken GlaSS" 1938 the start of the Holocuast and also an official Nazi Germany top sacred memorial holiday and martyr's day to commemorate Hitler's failed Beer Hall Putsch coup in Munich, Nov. 9 9/11 1923, which in turn was taken by the Stanist Nazis as their 1923 date probably because of the "9-11" significance to the Jewish "Ninth of Av" "9-11" day of mourning of the DOUBLE loss of the Jerusalem temples 500 years apart]]"marking the 20th anniversary of the breaching of the Berlin Wall, Cold War retrospectives are again in season. But the grim legacy of nuclear testing is apt to be lost amid the memories of Josef Stalin, Nikita Khrushchev, the Berlin airlift, the Cuban Missile Crisis and Ronald Reagan's famed exhortation at the Brandenburg Gate. The mushroom clouds over the Nevada desert seem so long ago, so devoid of any real-world consequences. But a study released Tuesday documents the enhanced cancer risk that Baby Boomers face because of these long-ago atmospheric tests. Epidemiologist Joseph Mangano analyzed the lingering radiation in infant teeth (donated long ago by the parents of baby boys born in the St. Louis area between 1959 and 1961) and compared the results to contemporary cancer data from the subjects. "What we found out was shocking," Mangano said. "Persons who had died of cancer had more than double the Strontium-90 in their (baby) teeth than did healthy persons." The original variance in Strontium-90 levels among individuals, he explained, was caused by seemingly small factors such as how much milk expectant mothers drank, diet and the source of the municipal water supply.

More at Link...

Read more: www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10/21/cold-war-remnan... /


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Simply Horrifying.

For those who were living during this era, it explains a lot of today's cancers.

For those whose parents or loved ones were born and exposed to this radiation, it explains a lot as well.

It is also one more reason not to trust the Nuclear Industry when it says emissions of radio-iodine and Strontium 90 from commercial reactors are safe.

I pray Obama does not support nuclear in the new energy bill soon to come up...



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Cold War Remnant: Cancer for Baby Boomers Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 02:41 PM #0
Here's the thing...just like "oil feeds my family"...many of us were... Tikki Oct-21-09 02:51 PM #1
I remember milk getting dumped ramapo Oct-21-09 03:02 PM #2
I also remember playing with tar bubbles intheflow Oct-21-09 03:26 PM #6
Other toxic memories ramapo Oct-21-09 03:55 PM #12
I'd forgotten about the DDT spraying! intheflow Oct-21-09 04:22 PM #19
We had "tar bubbles" on our playground. Tansy_Gold Oct-21-09 04:42 PM #23
So we really should have single payer, since the government is responsible AndyA Oct-21-09 03:14 PM #3
That is a damn good point. We should have FREE health care. Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 05:46 PM #25
Are reparations in order? Mulehead Oct-21-09 03:18 PM #4
Baby teeth lock in strontium -90 as it is a calcium mimic and is absorbed by teeth and bones Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 06:07 PM #27
Not to mention us "Downwinders" BlueIdaho Oct-21-09 03:22 PM #5
I think the point of the OP is that there are a lot of people living hedgehog Oct-21-09 06:48 PM #30
Wow - that's amazing Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:02 PM #32
My husband, who lived south of Bufalo at the time, recalls being warned hedgehog Oct-21-09 07:21 PM #37
I always wondered about this, PJPhreak Oct-21-09 03:27 PM #7
I also suspect the high number of thyroid problems are traceable juno jones Oct-21-09 03:28 PM #8
My wife has a bad thyroid ramapo Oct-21-09 03:56 PM #13
My entire family has thyroid issues and we are "downwinders" Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 04:08 PM #17
Even Fox News Reported on increases in Thyroid Cancers near nuclear plants Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 04:03 PM #16
I was/am? part of the St. Louis baby teeth study darkstar Oct-21-09 03:36 PM #9
That is really interesting information everyone should know about Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:17 PM #35
What about the 300 tons of depleted uranium used in Gulf War I and 1500 tons used in Gulf War II Rozlee Oct-21-09 03:39 PM #10
I don't think you are a "loony conspiracist." History--true history, not the refurbished kind--has Raster Oct-21-09 04:28 PM #20
Casualties ARE a primary concern: Casualty Production by radiological agents is... Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 05:12 PM #24
I grew up in Southeast Arizona. I personally knew persons that EVERY YEAR Raster Oct-21-09 08:50 PM #50
maybe this explains it CountAllVotes Oct-21-09 03:41 PM #11
I lost three female cousins (brain cancer) - two were in their early forties. Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 04:15 PM #18
thank you CountAllVotes Oct-21-09 04:34 PM #21
When I was 11 years old I developed a huge goiter on my neck Mari333 Oct-21-09 03:59 PM #14
When all is said and done KT2000 Oct-21-09 03:59 PM #15
Here is one study showing more than 60 Million cancer deaths from nuclear ... Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 05:59 PM #26
Wow - thanks for this KT2000 Oct-21-09 07:55 PM #45
The Nuke industry CANNOT afford to have this info publicly acknowledged Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 08:15 PM #47
You can check your own estimated I-131 exposure here (link) (National Cancer Institute site Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 04:36 PM #22
One reason Strontium 90 is so scarydangerous is it mimics Calcium and is absorbed by bones and teeth Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 06:11 PM #28
Right...that's exactly why they wanted the teeth darkstar Oct-21-09 07:21 PM #36
Radiation is absorbed into the teeth in utero Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:54 PM #44
Tihs has been the most educational thread I've read on DU today. I had NO IDEA catzies Oct-21-09 06:40 PM #29
Many many who've died of cancer were killed by the US nuke program Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 08:04 PM #46
I think that generally speaking, it's hard to point to one person with thyroid hedgehog Oct-21-09 06:54 PM #31
Pretty much almost all thyroid cancer is caused by radiation Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:08 PM #33
Have you ever seen information about the loss of thyroid function hedgehog Oct-21-09 07:15 PM #34
I believe there are studies on it at Mangano's website Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:24 PM #38
Thank you. Given the number of different toxic exposures hedgehog Oct-21-09 07:33 PM #40
It is not so hard to prove epidemiologically - but the Nuke industry Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:46 PM #42
Info on Thyroid damage (link) Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:37 PM #41
I've been aware of this for some time, but until now I've never made this connection. hedgehog Oct-21-09 07:28 PM #39
Probably, based on the odds...I am sorry... Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 07:50 PM #43
My dad remembers when they were told to "stay inside for a few days" AwakeAtLast Oct-21-09 08:16 PM #48
Were YOU exposed? Find out here (link) if you got DOSED by nuke tests Liberation Angel Oct-21-09 08:17 PM #49

[GetSmart]

Beatlies,


This is not only shocking as a way for former Nazi scientists integrated into the American Military Intelligence establishment to use an entire population to test the development and progression of genetic mutations, it also is disheartening that it serves another agenda, that of reducing our life cycles to depopulate the planet.


We can recognize the handwriting on the wall from the likes of Dr. Mengele who never missed an opportunity to test things out scientifically at the expense of the most horrific torture inflicted on innocent victims, either when he honed his skills for an American employer in Germany before WWII, during his years imagining concentration camp medical massacres or once in the USA working for the CIA as Doctor Green.

[beatlies]

Oct 14, 2009 18:51:52 GMT -5 beatlies said:

If cloning is really as simple and smooth a process for humans/primates as the scientific literature suggests, then they (the military/spook agency-employed doctors and biologists) may have also done various chilling, weird hybrid-type human clones.

Example: a FEMALE clone (or near-clone) human baby that is the result of a cloned body cell from a MALE adult. How?

Take the skin cell, hair (heir) cell, blood cell, etc. from an adult male; in the petri dish remove the Y (male type) chromosome and clone the X chromosome of the XY pair and place it beside the original X chromosome. Now you have an XX that is completely unique to the adult male donor human, but which will produce a new human that is female. Now implant this cell into the ennucleated egg cell to be cloned, implant that fused egg cell into the womb of the surrogate mother, the embryo will grow and voila, she will give birth to a baby girl that is a cross-gender hybrid-clone of her legal father, or legal grandfather, or whatever male adult she was cloned from.

That's just for starters folks, das Brave New World Order....


webspace.utexas.edu/lpy55/human-cloning-diagram.gif

Correction to my above speculation: cloning the X chromosome form the make "donor" and replacing the Y with it would probably make the resulting baby too "inbred" and "genetically imbalanced; similar to the product of incest between a brother and sister. Instead, they could keep the donor's X from his X-Y pair, delete the Y and replace it with the X from a non-related person (possibly from another male!) or, for example, the donor's wife or daughter-in-law. All the other chromosomes of the clone would, however, remain identical to the donor's and that is what would go into the ennucleated egg that grows into the clone fetus and clone baby.

[beatlies]

Oct 22, 2009 19:19:38 GMT -5 GetSmart said:

Beatlies,


This is not only shocking as a way for former Nazi scientists integrated into the American Military Intelligence establishment to use an entire population to test the development and progression of genetic mutations, it also is disheartening that it serves another agenda, that of reducing our life cycles to depopulate the planet.


We can recognize the handwriting on the wall from the likes of Dr. Mengele who never missed an opportunity to test things out scientifically at the expense of the most horrific torture inflicted on innocent victims, either when he honed his skills for an American employer in Germany before WWII, during his years imagining concentration camp medical massacres or once in the USA working for the CIA as Doctor Green.

I've read about Mengele coming to the USA and Canada, and possibly working under the name Green or Greenbaum ("baum" means "tree" in german, by the way, "clone" stems from the Greek word "clonus" meaning twig as in twig of a (family) tree branch.)

[GetSmart]

Oct 20, 2009 12:24:44 GMT -5 GetSmart said:

Oct 15, 2009 22:18:49 GMT -5 GetSmart said:

...In fact, there may be more to the Roosevelt family than meets the eye, at least at first glance. Let us examine if there is a possible link between them and the Romanov dynasty.

...I uncovered some unusual coincidences. Call them slight resemblances, yet it is interesting to note that one can find aesthetic characteristics in common with the Romanov dynasty in both the Kennedy family and the Roosevelt family.

One of the early Romanov emperors of Russia was Tsar Peter I, better known as Peter the Great. Here is a comparison of his physiognomy with that of U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

We cannot neglect to pursue the avenue of investigation which connects the Romanov dynasty to the Roosevelt family.

Here is what seems rather unusual to say the least.

What is most relevant to our research subject is that this important figure of high nobility and royal birth would be given as middle name "Franklin", the name of a commoner from the barbaric colonies. Or was he really considered a commoner by the cousins of the Romanov, or by the Romanov themselves?

www.fiafoundation.org/commissionforglobalroadsafety/about/prince_michael.html

[He] "was the fourth son of King George V and his mother, Princess Marina, was the daughter of Prince Nicholas of Greece and of Grand Duchess Helen Vladimirovna of Russia."

Prince Michael of Kent was thus Grandson of a Romanov Grand Duchess as well as Godson of a Romanov Tsar, Franklin I, clone of Peter the Great?




I understand it is quite a stretch of the imagination, but if today we discovered irrefutable evidence that secret advances in cloning were made over a century ago, we might reconsider our assumptions and ask ourselves a few important questions.

For example, what better way for an autocratic dynasty to infiltrate a Republic than with hidden members of their family? Were the Romanovs a "submarine" dynasty penetrating the U.S.A. through cloned family branches?



Was this in opposition to the New Atlantis project for a New World Order or were they in cahoots? If this theory becomes plausible, we must address quite a few important questions which might better explain what has actually been going on in 20th Century America.

[GetSmart]

While we do not yet have evidence of prehistoric beings ever having been cloned by modern science as it was shown in the film Jurassic Park, unable to produce a living, breathing. stomping dinosaur I suggest that we settle for the next best thing, a living, breathing, talking resurrection of a man who died some 45 centuries ago.

Even if this would not be a historical event by virtue of its recent technical accomplishment, it could be considered historical due to the ancient historical identity of the individual cloned.

Here is the link to the thread in which this is discussed. If you like I can repost it here to discuss it respective to the historical implications of cloning.

doppels.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=research&action=display&thread=41&page=4#3734

[artemis]

It was about time lol

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1222921/The-throne-clones-How-Royal-Family-inherited-just-titles.html

[GetSmart]

Oct 26, 2009 5:19:08 GMT -5 artemis said:

It was about time lol

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1222921/The-throne-clones-How-Royal-Family-inherited-just-titles.html

Artemis,

That article says a lot more than appears at first glance!

ROYAL CLONES

Just in case they pull it make sure you save the webpage.

We must find a logical explanation for why Royals throughout history have always sought to reproduce only among themselves.

I have heard several theories about this, and am of course open to any more ideas regarding why this has been going on for thousands of years.


THEORIES:


1. God chose the royals to be demi-gods on Earth.

This theory implies that God exists, and had a differentiated treatment of humans on Earth with some being chosen as leaders and others as a herd to be led. This is the divine shepherd (read: sheep herd) theory.


2. Royals must prove their royal blood.

Dynasties establish the social legitimacy of their dominance over common people on the basis of their hereditary origins. This means that they must prove they are the genuine descendants of previously accepted rulers, making inbreeding an effective way of reinforcing heredity claims. Heraldry and genealogy serve this purpose, and genetics might also support it.


3. Gods are really aliens and the Royals are Alien Agents.

Royal families are used by Extra-terrestrial or dimensional Aliens to control human populations by subjecting them to an autocratic power.


4. Royals are Aliens.

If the Gods (read: the Aliens) created Mankind in their image, it would be logical that a God (Alien) could live on Earth and pass for a human. They would however probably not want to MIX with lesser beings, call them humans or more simply "commoners".


5. Royals are Demon Possessed

The Royals have certain genetic blood-type characteristics which predispose them more than other people to demonic possession. This is why there are many allegations of Royal dynasties indulging in black magic, satanism and other occult ceremonials. For demons to remain within a given family holding absolute power for generations in a row, they make the Royals insure that their descendants are of a similar genetic predisposition to demonic possession.


6. We are all clones, the Royals have the latest firmware.

This theory is that we are living in a designed and fabricated reality Matrix within which each has a determined role. The Royals are plugged into this Matrix more directly and are in charge of orchestrating modifications to its composed scenarios.


7. Royals are Alien prison guards in a penitentiary planet.

This theory considers the Earth as a dimensional forced labor work camp where disobedient or unruly beings are sent to live out a life of punishment. Royals would be the equivalent of Wardens.


8. Royals are the original Clones.

By this token, cloning will have been done over centuries by applying selective breeding techniques to humans. The Royals will have purposely bred themselves to try to become the prototype Super Race of superior beings. This explains why the Royals were attached to Nazi beliefs of designing the "Aryan Superman".


9. Royals are the Merovingian offspring of Jesus Christ.

This theory promoted by the Da Vinci Coda as well as some versions of the Priory of Sion claims that Jesus was the true Messiah sent by God to Earth and his descendants are therefore leaders of God's battle against Satan.


10. Royals have been cloned for centuries.

Royals hide this fact from the public by pretending to inbreed. This provides the explanation for public consumption of why they all look the same. Like a similar series of standard production clones they tend to be identically produced. Once a clone has ended its useful life they transmit the Throne to another clone model of different appearance. However there are limited models available so the Royals are recirculated units of a same production time-differentiated series, skipping one or several generations before reissuing the an identical model.


Please add or dispute any theories you wish.


Regardless of the reasons, we cannot help but notice a pattern of Royal procreation with extremely similar genetic characteristics which manifest themselves by practically identical physical traits.

Is this due to the statistical probability of ordinary genetic reproduction? Is it because they have selected certain "dominant" genetic characteristics over centuries which will invariably re-emerge in a fully identical arrangement? Is it due to their employment of primitive cloning techniques first using secret occult alchemical lore from ancient Egypt or before?

Furthermore, whatever the reasons or true identity of the Royals, what is there Agenda here on Earth? Why do they invariably seek to dominate humans? Is it the unsavory satisfaction derived from power, the illusion of self-worth brought by social position, the unlimited freedom purveyed by wealth? Or is there something else they seek to do by covering the planet with their web of intrigue and totalitarian authority?


Your comments are actively solicited, from knee-jerk reactions based on intuition to beliefs in logics of a higher order.

[hotman637]

#11 The Aliens were HILLBILLIES (inbred,feuding crimminals).They created humans.That is why we tend to be inbred feuding crimminals,lol.THAT is the reason we have these never ending wars,conspiracies,lies,cloning,replacements,ect.ect.etc.People want to make it more complicated to cover it up,lol.

[GetSmart]

Well thanks Hotman, this is quite the slant we needed to get to the bottom of this. So it's a bunch of tobacco chewing shotgun toting illiterate congenital Hillbilly Aliens who genetically engineered all of humanity in their image?

Maybe they're also behind the war in Irak to get the oil?

'Cause they're Beverly Hillbilly Aliens ! @@

[hotman637]

YES!!! That is exactly correct! You put that so much better then I did. We ARE hillbillie aliens.Read "The 12th Planet" by Zecharia Sitchen. The aliens that settled earth 450,000 years ago were constantly doing 2 things,having sex with there sisters,daughters and grandaughters and having family feuds with and about the resulting offspring.300,000 years ago they created humans using alien DNA and the apelike creatures found on earth. After reading that I asked the question,what modern day people were these aliens like. Answer,HILLBILLIES! Therefore we, at bottom were hillbillies too.Then when we look at modern people like Bush,Clintstone,Osama Bin Laudin, the Talaban The royal family,the Kennedy's,Jesus, Mohammed,the Jews, the Masons,CIA,FBI, Lee Harvey Oswald etc.etc. I can make the case (I may be wrong,lol) that all these people are "hillbilles" or controlled by "hillbilles".I realise that what I say is not politically correct but they have been using "political correctness" to cover up thier inbred,feuding,crimminal behavior for a LONG time.

[GetSmart]

Hotman,

There is actually nothing which isn't politically correct about your statement. It is in fact quite eloquent. The only thing people might have trouble with is your use of the term Hillbillies. And this for only a few unimportant reasons.

Such a term has been mostly limited to use in the southern states of the USA. Other countries have their own versions of Hillbillies, whether Islanders, poor mountain folk or inbred royalty. However to them the word Hillbillies is entirely foreign.

Also, this term brings the main focus of the argument onto promiscuous sexual misbehavior, which isn't negligible but may not be the real problem we are facing today with their current push for a New Hillbilly World Order.

Most of us don't know Hillbillies well although there are quite a l ot of stereotypes about them. So it is hard for us to regroup much of what is occurring in world politics and secret societies or sects under the single banner of Hillbilly invasion.

Regardless of your choice of words, this term does better represent the nature of the Beast, which is as crazy as demonic even if as slimy and deceitful as reptiles. They are maybe Hillbillies, but of a most sinister type, who relish harming and actively seek out what seems to accidentally befall run of the mill Hillbillies.

Thanks for alerting us to this similarity. We cannot fail to acknowledge that if THEY are bent upon haunting our lives and causing the perdition of those most unfortunate, they will wreak havoc upon those poor uneducated populations in remote desolate regions which are by all accounts "abandoned by god". But we must remember that Hillbillies are but one of the numerous disfavored communities which has fallen victim to their demonic influence.

[treegenus]

www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=12806315
seriously demented............MK or just nuts from mass media?

[artemis]

Id say nuts from mass-media. U know there are plenty of ppl who look like that... This guy is one more reason (for me) to be in favour of eugenics and one more reason that this planet is really not for everybody.