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Post by lucy on Dec 17, 2008 21:49:28 GMT -5
Sherlok, you're right! But there is no such thing as "justice for all" in our world. The lame pledge of Allegiance is just a mild form of brainwashing the youth into thinking this little pledge is something to stand for.
Indeed, how do they declare someone guilty without being tried in a court of law? Hmmm.
Indeed. The illuminists sacrificed Adam Walsh like they did to Polly Klaas, and so they allow their fathers to be advocates for missing children.
Another one that comes to mind is JonBenet Ramsey, not a missing child story, but one with a mysterious death and nobody guilty???
And what's the story with Caylee?
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Post by lucy on Dec 17, 2008 21:53:46 GMT -5
Something else that comes to mind with "missing people". The recent "remains" surrounding Caylee, and even Chandra Levy. When these people went missing, there was supposedly a thorough search in the areas these people were last seen in...or so we are told. If there is a thorough search with dogs and such, something should have been found at first.
The mysterious thing that causes me to question the "thorough" search is that later on some "remains" are found in the area. Now that tells me there was a sacrifice and then a body part or two, or some clothing with their DNA on it all of a sudden is found months later???
Gee, do these "remains" just fall out of the sky? Duh...
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Post by sherlok on Dec 17, 2008 22:50:29 GMT -5
There's a guy named Ted Gunderson who is retired FBI and a whistle-blower. He talks about a thing called "The Finders" which is a covert operation to nab kids for use in ritual sacrifices, etc. He has created some DVDs and videos and written material about this subject.
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Post by beatlies on Dec 23, 2008 10:00:19 GMT -5
Buckingham Palace butler 'ran paedophile sex ring while working for the Royal Family'
By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 4:54 PM on 01st October 2008
Add to My Stories A former Buckingham Palace butler has been unmasked as a sexual predator who ran a paedophile ring while serving the Royal Family.
Bachelor Paul Kidd, 55, groomed at least one of his teenage victims for sex by taking him for tea with the Queen Mother at Clarence House, it has emerged.
To the public, he had been the urbane gent who waited on the Royals for nine years - first the Queen at the Palace and then her mother.
He often publicly gushed about his blue blood employers talking of the Queen as 'courteous and genuinely caring.'
Former Royal butler Paul Kidd has admitted 29 sex charges involving three boys
But behind the facade, Kidd was leading a secret double life as a serial child abuser who molested a string of boys over a 30 year period.
He was finally exposed after one of his victims read a newspaper article in which he boasted about his links to the Royals and talked fondly of Princess Diana and her musical tastes.
Police raided his two bedroom home in St Johns Street, Stalybridge, where they found almost 19,000 pornographic pictures and videos of children.
Included in the haul were some nude pictures of a teenager who officers were able to trace and interview.
Some images were hidden in a safe while others were encrypted on his computer.
Kidd admitted 29 sex charges involving three boys namely indecent assault, sexual activity with a child and the possessing and making of indecent images of children between December 1974 and January 2008.
An accomplice David Hobday, 56, of St Johns Street, Dukinfield admitted seven charges involving one of the victims of sexual activity with a child and possessing indecent images. Both men face a maximum 14 years in jail. A police source said: 'Kidd was a very accomplished groomer of children. Kidd has been remanded in custody and faces 14 years in jail if convicted 'Given that he has been behaving like this for 30 years the likelihood is there could be many other victims out there who have not yet come forward. 'This man used his Royal connections to impress and seduce young boys. He even had autographed pictures of Manchester United players on his walls at home.
'He was acting with at least one other man and it's possible he could have been communicating with many other paedophiles over many years.
'These offences are probably just the tip of the iceberg.' Kidd had honed his skills as a silver service waiter when he joined the Royal Navy after leaving school - looking after the captain and officers.
During his naval service he visited 22 countries around the world. In 1976 he was appointed as butler to the Queen at Buckingham Palace and served there for six years until being transferred to Clarence House where he served the Queen Mother.
During his years in Royal service, he was said to have met and looked after three American Presidents including Jimmy Carter and Ronald Regan plus many other Heads of State from around the world.
He was also said to have worked closely with Princess Diana at Buckingham Palace in the six months prior to her wedding to Prince Charles.
In 1985 he gave up Royal Service due to a cancer scare but then started charging up to £4,000 a time as an after dinner speaker talking about his work with the Royal Family.
He ran a series of lectures including one he called: An uncomfortable experience for the Queens page boy. Kidd also starred on numerous TV chat shows in the UK and USA including the Caroline Rhea show in New York. He also appeared on stage with Hollywood actor Robin Williams at the Nemacolin Spa & Resort Centre in the USA.
He joined Robert Kilroy Silk's UK Independence party standing unsuccessfully as a candidate in local council elections.
In one interview Kidd said of the Queen: 'She was always very courteous, but she only ever addressed me as 'Kidd' - never by my first name.
'She deals with people in a genuinely caring manner. Her children are the future of the country, they cannot be brought up in a namby-pamby manner.
'But in private, as a mother and grandmother, she dotes on the children.'
Police began investigating Kidd earlier this year after a victim, now 41 read a newspaper article about Kidd in which he talked about Princess Diana on the 10th anniversary of her death.
The victim was thought to be so disgusted by his bragging, he went to police and told officers how he was 14 when he was abused by Kidd after meeting him through a CB radio group.
Kidd introduced the lad to his Royal employers and took him for tea with the Queen Mother in the late 70s.
It is believed the victim even spoke to the Queen Mother - at a time when the late Royal had no idea he was being secretly abused by her servant.
It emerged he had met Kidd though a religious group when he was 14 and he was sexually accused and passed onto another paedophile.
A third victim later came forward to say he was abused in the 1980s when he was 15 after meeting him when Kidd was training to be a nurse.
At Minshull Street Crown Court, Manchester, Kidd and Hobday were told they would be sentenced on November 20 after probation officers complete a report assessing whether they are a risk to the public.
Various other charges will be allowed to lie on file.
Both were remanded in custody and Judge Mushtaq Khokhar told them: 'You have both pleaded guilty to serious offences and you will be under no illusion that the likely sentence is going to be custody.'
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Post by lucy on Jan 4, 2009 15:37:30 GMT -5
Why doesn't this surprise me? It's like a sick thing to abuse their victims before they sacrifice them.
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Post by beatlies on Jan 4, 2009 18:23:00 GMT -5
Why doesn't this surprise me? It's like a sick thing to abuse their victims before they sacrifice them. Yeah, child sexual abuse is extremely common among the top aristocrats of Europe just as it within the Vatican (some of which has been sensationally exposed in this decade) and other hierarchical, organized religions. Because they know that they can get away with it,especially with local police/secret police protection, whom they "own" in various ways. There was this scandal that rocked Belgium (home to the capital city of NATO) a few years ago of organized gov.-related pedophilia rings, that had Belgian firefighters spraying government buildings with firehoses to symbolically "cleanse" them --what happened to that scandal? It seems to have been disappeared from history/the media.
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Post by beatlies on Jan 8, 2009 23:30:43 GMT -5
The Disappearance of Etan Patz Print Email
Smaller | LargerBy Anthony Bruno
Future Flight Captain
The morning of May 25, 1979, was hectic at the New York City home of Stanley and Julie Patz. They lived in a converted loft in Manhattan's Soho district, pioneers in a section of the city that would later become the place-to-be for New York trendsetters. Soho had been Manhattan's manufacturing zone, characterized by block after block of 19th century, iron-fronted factories standing shoulder to shoulder. On overcast days it was easy to imagine the gloomy sweatshop conditions of old New York, but in the 1970s, a fair number of these buildings were dark and empty, and the streets were desolate and forbidding at night. Still, people were making their homes in the neighborhood, breathing new life into it. Artists were first drawn to the area, attracted to the large, open spaces and cheap rents. Stanley Patz, a photographer, and his wife Julie lived in a loft on Prince Street with their three children: Shira, then age 8; Etan, 6; and Ari, 2.
Map of Lower Manhattan with Soho marked (AP) Julie ran a day-care center out of her home. On the morning of May 25, as was her routine, Julie got her own children ready for the day as she prepared for the 14 preschoolers she cared for. As Julie dished out breakfast for her family, little Etan started agitating to walk himself to the bus stop again. He'd been asking if he could for some time now. A six-week school bus strike had just ended; the buses were scheduled to resume service that day. During the strike, the Patzes had hired a woman to walk Etan to school, but now that the buses were back, Etan pleaded with his parents to let him walk the two blocks to the bus stop by himself. Etan was a good boy, and it was a close-knit neighborhood where the residents watched out for the children, so the Patzes gave in and told him he could walk to the bus stop like a big boy.
Etan Patz (AP) Etan was elated. He was dressed all in blue that day—blue pants, blue corduroy jacket, and blue sneakers with distinctive fluorescent stripes along the sides. He carried a blue cloth bag with an elephant pattern on the fabric. And as usual he was wearing his black "Future Flight Captain" pilot's cap, which covered his straight, light-brown hair. He pulled it down low over his brow, shading his blue eyes. He wore his prized cap all the time, even to bed. He'd bought it at an outdoor flea market for 10 cents.
Julie took Etan downstairs to the street and gave him a dollar for a soft drink at the local bodega. It was a misty morning, and the pavement was wet. Julie watched Etan as he started his big journey, two short blocks to the corner of Prince and West Broadway where the bus would pick him up. She kept her eye on him as he proceeded to the first corner at Wooster Street. After he crossed, Julie went back upstairs, confident that Etan could make it the rest of the way by himself. It was just 150 feet to the bus stop.
A woman who lived nearby saw Etan as he stood on the corner of Wooster and Prince, a relatively quiet intersection, as he waited to cross. A mailman also saw him at that intersection. They were the last people known to see Etan Patz.
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Etan Kalil Patz (October 9, 1972 – unknown; legally dead 2001) was a six-year-old child who disappeared in lower Manhattan on May 25, 1979. At the time, news coverage of Patz's disappearance was made into a media circus in the New York area. He is arguably the most famous missing child of New York City. [1]His disappearance helped spark the missing children's movement, including new legislation, new awareness, and various methods for tracking down missing children, such as the milk carton campaigns of the mid eighties.
Contents [hide] 1 Disappearance 1.1 Suspect 2 Legacy 3 In popular culture 4 Notes 5 External links
[edit] Disappearance On the morning of Friday, May 25, 1979, six-year-old Etan put on his prized blue captain's hat and left his SoHo apartment by himself—for the very first time—to walk the two blocks to catch the school bus. He did not reach the bus stop.
When he did not return home from school at 3:15 that afternoon, his mother reported him missing. An intense search, utilizing nearly 100 police officers and a team of bloodhounds, began that evening and would continue for weeks. Various circumstances surrounding this case, such as it being Etan's first time outside alone, made it into a greatly media-driven incident.
[edit] Suspect In 1991, jailhouse informants claimed that Jose Antonio Ramos, a convicted child sexual abuser imprisoned in Pennsylvania, admitted to his murder. Ramos had been a friend of Etan's one-time babysitter. He promised that no body would be found, saying "It's too horrible. No one would ever represent me".[citation needed] In a special feature on missing children, the New York Post, reported on October 23, 1999, that Ramos was the prime suspect in Etan's disappearance.
Etan was declared legally dead in 2001. His parents, Stanley and Julie Patz, pursued a civil case against Ramos, who was found liable for Patz's wrongful death in May 2004.[2] They were awarded a sum of $2 million, which they have never collected, as Ramos is serving a prison term for molesting boys in Pennsylvania. He will have served his full sentence in 2014. Without evidence, a body or a crime scene, some New York investigators do not believe they will ever be able to convict Ramos for Patz's death.[citation needed]
[edit] Legacy Each year, on the anniversary of Etan's birthday and his disappearance, Stan Patz sends Ramos a copy of his son's MISSING poster. On the back he types the same message: "What did you do to my little boy?". The day of Etan Patz's disappearance, May 25, is now designated National Missing Children's Day.[1]
[edit] In popular culture In the 1983 movie Without a Trace, starring Kate Nelligan and Judd Hirsch, a six year old boy disappears while walking to school in Manhattan. The Stanley Jaffe film was loosely based on the Patz case. While in production, this movie was titled Still Missing, based on the Beth Gutcheon novel of the same name. It was retitled when someone realized that audiences might mistake this film for a sequel to the unrelated movie Missing.
In the 1996 movie Ransom, a nine-year-old boy disappears from New York City's Central Park. Brawley Nolte, the child actor, bears an (older) resemblance to the widely circulated image of Etan. Unlike Etan's case, the object of the kidnapping was merely money.
[edit] Notes ^ a b Ramirez, Jessica. "The Abductions That Changed America", Newsweek, 29 January 2007, pp. 54–55. ^ Saulny, Susan. "Judge Rules That a Convicted Molester, Now in Prison, Is Responsible for Etan Patz's Death", The New York Times, 5 May 2004.
[edit] External links Etan Patz at Findagrave.com Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etan_Patz" Categories: 1972 births | Kidnapped American children | Disappeared people | People from New York City Hidden categories: Articles needing additional references from February 2007 | All articles with unsourced statements | Articles with unsourced statements since February 2007
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Post by beatlies on Jan 13, 2009 9:16:48 GMT -5
SON OF UNCLE SAM My transcript of a talk given by Dave Emory entitled "The Ultimate Evil: Mind Control, Satanism, & the U.S. National Security Establishment". Emory shares the microphone with an unidentified co-host, designated here as CO-HOST. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + [...continued...] CN -- Dave Emory continues his coverage of the suspicious murders directly traceable to the Son of Sam case. Rather than give a word-for-word transcription, here is a partial summary of points I found salient: *** A mailman named Andrew Dupres(sp?) [doo-PAY] who delivered to Berkowitz' and Carr's addresses on a daily basis reported having seen something which troubled him greatly. He also is quoted as saying that "they" were threatening him and that "they" were going to "get" his family. He wound up, apparently, committing suicide. *** The previously mentioned Carr family, two of whose members died violent deaths and who seem to have been connected to the Son of Sam killings (i.e. John Carr and Michael Carr), also had two members on the Yonkers police force. Quoting from Emory's reading of *The Ultimate Evil*: "I'd have contacted the Yonkers police force with the information I have, but I think you know as well as I it would've been another mistake considering the force employs two members of the Carr family: sister Wheat, and brother-in-law John McCabe." *** May 8, 1982 -- 4th anniversary of Berkowitz' guilty pleas. Leon Stern, Berkowitz' chief counsel at the time of these guilty pleas, was shot dead when he apparently surprised two burglars who had broken into his home. *** Some indications that The Process may have been a front for intelligence operations. Dave Emory reads from Maury Terry's book (in quotes), then adds his own comments: "Sanders said that the FBI, Israeli Intelligence, the California Beverage Control Board, the Los Angeles D.A.'s office as well as the L.A.P.D. and Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, all mounted probes of the [Sharon] Tate murders, with the Treasury Department involved peripherally. And those were only the ones *he* knew about." Well now, what conceivable interest would Israeli Intelligence have in looking into the Manson killings, if, *if* we are to take those killings at face value. And I'm not at all sure that we can. *** The existence of an elite hit squad amongst Satanists, known as "The Black Cross". Dave Emory reads from Maury Terry's book (in quotes): "At the same time, police in the Los Angeles area and two former L.A. Satanists sent word that an east coast cult branch, allied with the Chingons, the Black Cross, was operating as an elite hit squad for various U.S. satanic groups involved in drug and pornography enterprises... And as for the Black Cross itself, it appeared to be closely linked to the 'Sam' cult in New York, and existed for one purpose: murder. Its function, the California contact said, was the elimination of defecting cult members or other enemies, including innocent people who inadvertently learned about a given group's illegal activities. [CN -- For example, the above-mentioned mailman, Andrew Dupres, who after inadvertently discovering some secrets, apparently was forced to commit suicide when 'they' began threatening his family.] Murder, anywhere in the country, was now but a phone call away..." *** Dave Emory reads from Maury Terry's book (in quotes): "Now one of the interesting things concerning the Son of Sam investigation as well as the Manson family investigation was that it became very apparent that both Charles Manson and David Berkowitz, convicted in the Son of Sam case, were basically 'railroaded' by the law enforcement officials. They basically 'took the fall' for what was obviously a very very large conspiracy. Although involved, they were not the main people. They were tools. And yet the people in the positions to put them away simply did not investigate the conspiracy." *** Dave Emory comments, then reads from Maury Terry's book (in quotes): ...Queens D.A. John Santucci was convinced that David Berkowitz did not act alone and he wanted to pursue a conspiracy. However, the conspiratorial aspects were basically "deep sixed" by [Bronx D.A.] Mario Merola. "While at Police Plaza, Santucci sat in on some of the questioning of Berkowitz and formed the opinion that Berkowitz was lucid and not 'demon possessed' as he then claimed, and that the .44 case might well go deeper than it was presented to be. His own evaluation of the evidence left him with nagging doubts concerning Berkowitz' alleged sole responsibility." "Santucci then pressed for a Berkowitz trial, but was persuaded by Eugene Gold in Brooklyn and the Bronx's Mario Merola to allow Berkowitz to plead 'guilty' without any dissidence. Santucci's reluctance to yield to the pressure reached the media and he was criticized by 'its sources' for his stance." *** Emory and Terry both think that Mario Merola deliberately ignored evidence of a conspiracy behind the Son of Sam killings. Regarding Merola, Emory makes the following observations: 1) During World War II, Merola was in the O.S.S., the forerunner of the CIA: Well one of the interesting things about his background in the OSS -- the late director of the CIA, William Casey, was in charge of all secret intelligence in Europe for the OSS. Now a number of people who were in the OSS went on to careers with CIA. And I think it's a safe assumption that not *all* of those are a matter of public record. The CIA has long sought to have people in various positions that could be of use to them. District Attorneys are one of the positions that they like to be able to control. Also, coroners, is another one that they like to be able to control. It *may* be, I say it may be, that in fact Mario Merola never really left the intelligence community at all and continued to work for CIA. An even more likely possibility, I think, is that he reacted the way many people who are veterans of the OSS reacted -- although not actually in the service, they continued to do favors for the intelligence community [i.e. an "old boy network"]. 2) Mario Merola was the prosecutor in the Raymond Donovan case. Donovan got off, scot free. And in politically charged and/or intelligence related cases, one of the ways of throwing a case is often to have a deliberately weak prosecution. [CN -- see, for example, the Chuck Harder/Linda Thompson interview, in which Thompson charges that that is *exactly* what happened, i.e. that the prosecution was deliberately weak for *some* of the defendants in the Waco trial.] Now in the David Berkowitz situation, Merola definitely messed the bed very badly by accepting, basically, an *incredible* "lone nut" confession and ignoring the obvious indications of a much broader conspiracy. DAVE EMORY [Continues]: Had the Son of Sam case really unravelled the way it might have... an entire aspect of American history and political science would have been revealed that is not only unknown to most people, but frankly, would seem incredible to an awful lot of people under the circumstances. One of the points that we've tried to make, throughout the course of our discussion of *The Ultimate Evil*, is that, again, the *Satanism* is one of the things that throws people off. The intelligence agencies have *long* used occult groups as a front for activity. For one thing, occult groups exist at the periphery of public scrutiny and therefore are ideal to use as intelligence fronts. In addition to that, because of the unusual activities of occult groups, any suspicious activity on the part of an intelligence agent *using* these groups could be laid simply to the bizarre nature of the group itself. [CN -- also, first amendment protections for "religious" freedom would help shield them from investigation.]
Now specifically, vis a vis mind control, many, many of the cults on the scene today are, in fact, mind-control fronts for the U.S. Intelligence and Military communities. [...to be continued...] ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe conspire My Name" to listproc@prairienet.org -- To cancel, send a message in the form "unsubscribe conspire" to listproc@prairienet.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Jan 13, 2009 15:45:38 GMT -5
^ Thanks for that. It, perhaps, sheds some light on why iamaphoney keeps referencing Charles Manson in the Rotten Apple videos. The link to the above is at www.theconspiracy.us/9410/0023.html, btw.
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Post by sherlok on Jan 13, 2009 17:03:27 GMT -5
This book has a huge amount of info about serial killers and their relationship with the military & intelligence communities, satanic groups, etc. It's by Dave McGowan, the author of the Laurel Canyon series of articles that I think most here are familiar with. It has some very surprising information. Such as the fact that many "serial killer" cases were really committed by "serial killer s" (plural) which may or may not have included the infamous person who was convicted for the crimes. But, be advised, there is some very disturbing data in this book.
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Jan 13, 2009 17:51:22 GMT -5
^ Thanks! I will look into it & pass that info on
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Post by lostworld on Jan 15, 2009 15:22:11 GMT -5
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Post by artemis on Feb 17, 2009 8:36:52 GMT -5
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Feb 26, 2009 1:07:49 GMT -5
The Rockefellers were involved in the creation of the FBI, so that the FBI has always been an arm of power for the Illuminati. That is why there are official FBI programs in action today to kidnap children and provide them for sacrifice. Yes, American people, the wolf was set in charge of guarding the chicken coop. The organization that is working as part of the FBI is the Finders. (The stink was so bad that US. News & World Report did a story to soften the impact of the scandal. See the article on a following page. Ex-Satanists who worked with the FBI to receive the children the FBI kidnapped and sold to them for sacrifice have been trying to get the word out publicly about the FBI’s corruption. When the Illuminati was beginning to get exposed in the Franklin Saving & Loan case in Lincoln, NE the FBI was part of the dirty actors and was part of the cover up. The Rockefellers have had control over the FBI since they helped get it started. When Congress wanted to investigate the CIA for wrongdoing the appointed a Commission headed by Rockefeller to investigate the CIA’s wrongdoings! Yes, the Rockefeller Commission did a big study and slapped the hands of the CIA for a few misdeeds. Their report is still cited as the big investigation of the CIA. Some investigation! Since the Rockefeller family work hand in hand with the CIA to create Monarch slaves, of course that part of the CIA’s misdeeds got overlooked! Bloodlines of the Illuminati 10. Rockefeller www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html
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Post by faulconandsnowjob on Feb 26, 2009 1:27:19 GMT -5
China Lake Naval Research Base (Inyokern), CA--This facility had a country store, and hangers, and a hospital (address for the hospital is the code- 232 Naval Air Weapons Station) which all provided sites for programming. This site has been operational since the early 1950s. Large numbers of children (batches of 1000 or 2,000 or 3,000 children were run through this facility at a time. This facility did much of the original traumas and mind-splitting tortures that created the MPD. Other facilities then specialized in further programming that was then layered in on top of the original China Lake programming. A great deal of dehumanization in cages was done to large numbers of tiny children at China Lake Naval Facility. The Illuminati Formula Appendix I: The Programmers www.whale.to/b/blood_q.html
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