John
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Post by John on Dec 18, 2010 5:11:03 GMT -5
" Buchenwald Death Camp"
"It is true that there were no extermination camps on German soil and thus no mass gassings such as those that took place at Auschwitz, Treblinka and other camps. A gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed." Simon Wiesenthal, "Gassings in Germany" The Stars and Stripes European Edition, Sunday, January 24, 1993 pg. 14.
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Post by treegenus on Dec 18, 2010 12:11:20 GMT -5
" Buchenwald Death Camp" "It is true that there were no extermination camps on German soil and thus no mass gassings such as those that took place at Auschwitz, Treblinka and other camps. A gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed." Simon Wiesenthal, "Gassings in Germany" The Stars and Stripes European Edition, Sunday, January 24, 1993 pg. 14. Oh gosh, we can't go too deeply there because this gigantically blown out of proportion subject matter will only erroneously label us. I had read that the showers were disinfectant showers as the customs of the various peoples were to not take showers and they needed de-licing? And that the rare photos of emancated people were due to isolated health outbreaks? Hell, if I know what the truth is but I read about the 'blue' staining in the chambers and that they couldn't possibly have been 'gas' chambers. And let's reiterate here that the Anne Frank Diary book was fabricated and the legend lives on magnified for various reasons. Many, many people suffered, let's not be fooled but the distorted stories have run amuck. What about the holocaust in South America and Africa? You never, never hear much of what has happened there for over fifty years to those poor souls.
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Post by beatlies on Dec 18, 2010 14:32:42 GMT -5
" Buchenwald Death Camp" "It is true that there were no extermination camps on German soil and thus no mass gassings such as those that took place at Auschwitz, Treblinka and other camps. A gas chamber was in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed." Simon Wiesenthal, "Gassings in Germany" The Stars and Stripes European Edition, Sunday, January 24, 1993 pg. 14. Oh gosh, we can't go too deeply there because this gigantically blown out of proportion subject matter will only erroneously label us. I had read that the showers were disinfectant showers as the customs of the various peoples were to not take showers and they needed de-licing? And that the rare photos of emancated people were due to isolated health outbreaks? Hell, if I know what the truth is but I read about the 'blue' staining in the chambers and that they couldn't possibly have been 'gas' chambers. And let's reiterate here that the Anne Frank Diary book was fabricated and the legend lives on magnified for various reasons. Many, many people suffered, let's not be fooled but the distorted stories have run amuck. What about the holocaust in South America and Africa? You never, never hear much of what has happened there for over fifty years to those poor souls. There were gas chambers in Auschwitz used to kill men, women, children. infants. In constant operation. Used crystallized prussic acid, an insecticide/anti-rodent chemical with the brand name "Zyklon B." ("zyklon"=german word for "cyclone"). The Nazis and their functionaries had already been killing many thousands of handicapped people, including children with poison gas in their "T4" eugenics program before the Auschwitz gassings went into operation. The first people to be killed in the Auschwitz gas chambers were hundreds of Soviet POWs captured by the germans on the eastern front.
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Post by artemis on Sept 17, 2011 15:15:29 GMT -5
Sorry for the mistakes, if they exist. Blame them on Google Translate... I believe this is the most revealing proof as far as this case is concerned.
A Holocaust survivor "Elie Wiesel is not the a prisoner A-7713"
Romanian-born American writer Elie Wiesel was sued by a Holocaust survivor, Grüner Miklos, because the 1986 Nobel Prize carrier would have learned the identity of the prisoner A-1773. Miklos Grüner established in Swedish city Malmo, says he has clear evidence that Elie Wiesel is not the person who spent almost a year in Auschwitz. "In 1986, after the Nobel, the Swedish press began to search for survivors of the Holocaust. So I found myself in Malmo. They asked me if I want to see myself with my fellow camp, Elie Wiesel. Elie name I do not sound familiar. They told me that at that time as the Lazarus figure Wiesel. For a year I was off with Lazarus in the same barracks at Auschwitz. Both show up on a photo made camp at Buchenwald on April 16, 1945, which has gone around the world, with the Haft-Nr.123565 Wiesel (No - photo. 7th in the second row), and I with Haft- no. 120 762 (n.r - the first in the upper left). You know very well, but since then had passed 40. Meeting organized by the Swedish lasted 10 minutes and took place on December 14, 1986. Naturally we were two people change, but he refuses to talk to me in Hungarian, though the camp only language that I used it. He spoke English with a French accent and when I did not want to show the tattoo (A-7713), acquired all prisoners of Auschwitz, I began to have doubts that it would be great Lazar Wiesel. At the end of my meeting dedicated his book "Night", which claims that he wrote it, but I told everyone that this man is not Lazar Wiesel, "said Miklos Grüner.
Miklos Grüner, "Lazar Wiesel saved my life "
From meeting with Wiesel, Miklos Grüner has not had a quiet day. For 25 years sought evidence that would confirm his hypothesis, which he published in a book. "In May of 1944 I was deported to Auschwitz Birkenau from Nyiregyhaza. Immediately, I was tattooed on the forearm a registration number. In a few days I lost my whole family. When I arrived in the care of Wiesel brothers, Lazarus and Abraham. The two came from Sighetu Marmatiei (n - Maramures County, Romania). Lazar was born in 1913 and had the registration number A-7713, while Abraham - in 1900, with registration number A-7712. They took me under their wing and took care of me, as it could under such conditions. When the Germans began to retreat, and people took Auschwitz. I ran with Lazar. It has bonded us even more. We arrived in town Glivice, bitter winter of January 1945. Many died on the road. We have put in overloaded cars and, until we arrived at Buchenwald, many have died, among them Lazar's brother, Abraham. Here I stood up on April 8, 1945, when the Americans liberated us. Since then I do not know anything Lazar Wiesel. I ended up in a sanatorium in Switzerland, then in Australia, "recalls time spent with Grüner about Wiesel.
"Night" brought consecration Elie Wiesel
Grüner Auschwitz Miklos claims that there was no prisoner named Elie Wiesel. "In 1955, my good friend Lazarus Wiesel published his book" Silent World "in Paris, under the name of Eliezer Wiesel. In 1958, the book was rewritten in English and French as the "The Night" ("La Nuit" - "Night") by François Mauriac. Original book had 250 pages, now have only 115 and was signed by Elie Wiesel. This book became a bestseller with over 10 million copies sold, and Wiesel received the Nobel Prize in 1986, plus other awards, while the latter lost all my friend Lazarus, "says Grüner. He went to America at the Register Office, but found no document to prove the existence of a person in the U.S. named Lazar Wiesel and Elie Wiesel. Grüner Wiesel denounced him and the FBI. They asked a respite of 14 days before you give an answer, but years have passed without a sign from U.S. authorities. "I get constant phone calls threatening that I would be shot if the investigations go on, but I have already passed through death, nothing scares me not. Before I die I want everyone to know that Elie Wiesel is an impostor. Lazar Wiesel, A-7712, which I was at Auschwitz, which appears in the picture, was born on 4 September 1913, while on the birth certificate of Elie Wiesel, writing September 30, 1928, "said Grüner, author of "Story of a Nobel Prize with false identity stolen."
The case is tried in Budapest
In the complaint filed, Miklos Grüner Wiesel claims that Abraham (A-7712) was Lazar's brother and father not as stated Elie. "The documents obtained in Romania shows that his father was Salamon Lazar Wiesel Wiesel. I want the court to say clearly that Elie Wiesel was ever imprisoned in Auschwitz, because I doubt, "he concluded Grüner. His lawyer, Dr. Ferenc Bösze said the process could even begin this fall. "It is interesting that Grüner is a Swedish citizen, Wiesel an American, but the case will be tried in court Budapest Hungary. Miklos Grüner gathered a wealth of evidence, some convincing, such as the list of passengers who traveled from Paris to New York in 1957, when Elie Wiesel says that he arrived in America's birth certificate in Romania Lazar Wiesel, Auschwitz Museum documents and certificates from the Hebrew community in Jerusalem Vasem Yed, "said Ferenc Bösze.
There were two Lazar Wiesel to Auschwitz?
Wiesel case came to the attention of many Holocaust survivors. In 1986, Eva Kor sent a letter to the Auschwitz Museum, in seeking information on prisoner A-7713. Kazimierz Smolen, Auschwitz Museum director, replied in a letter dated March 15, 1987: "In the Auschwitz concentration camp, with identification number A-7713 listed Mr. Lazar Weisel, born on 04/09/1913. It is a Hungarian Jew, born Maramarossziget (Sighetu Marmatiei). He arrived at Auschwitz on May 24, 1944. He stayed closed until the end of 1944 in KL Auschwitz III - Monowitz. When evacuation camp was transferred to KL Buchenwald, was recorded on the day of 1/26/1945 ". On July 7, 2003, Auschwitz Museum sent a letter to Grüner Miklos occur following identifiers: "A-11 104 - Grüner Miklos, Hungarian Jew, born on April 6, 1928 in Nyiregyhaza, A-7712 - Wiesel Abraham, born October 10, 1900 at Maramarossziget (Sighetu Marmatiei), A-7713 - Lazar Wiesel, born September 4, 1913 at Maramarossziget (Sighetu Marmatiei) ". In a parallel investigation carried out by Carlo Mattogno, Italian writer concludes that both the Auschwitz camp and at Buchenwald, where he took the photo, there was a Lazar Wiesel, but Lázár Wiesel wrote. "On April 22, 1945, Lazar Wiesel of the U.S. military completed a form at Buchenwald. The date of birth, he wrote: October 4, 1928, and the place of birth: Maramarossziget (Sighetu Marmatiei). He wrote that he was arrested on April 16, 1944 and deported to Auschwitz-Monowitz. He was born the same year as Elie Wiesel, but not on the same day. According to the Buchenwald memorial site Gedenkstatte Lazar Wiesel was sent to Paris on 16 July 1945, a convoy of surviving children. Clear evidence that we are talking about two different people is that the records of Buchenwald is Lazar Wiesel, political prisoner, born September 4, 1913, with registration number 123 565 Haft-No, but Lázár Wiesel, born on October 4, 1928 , with registration number 123 165 Haft-No. It is not known how many registration had Lázár Wiesel to Auschwitz, nor is the list of persons who were transferred from Auschwitz to Buchenwald, but in any case could not be A-7713, because it belonged to Lazar Wiesel was born in 1913 ", says Carlo Mattogno. In 2008, the trial of Eric Hunt, who attacked Wiesel in a hotel room, under oath, as the injured party, Elie Wiesel gave the following answers to the judge: "I was born in Sighet, Romania, on September 30, 1928. I was deported to Auschwitz, and on my left forearm was tattooed A-7713, while my father received A-7712."
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Post by superman on Jul 29, 2016 1:43:32 GMT -5
Looks like he almost could have been played by this famous fellow...GARRY MARSHALL 1934 - 2016
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Post by emerald on Jul 29, 2016 3:01:59 GMT -5
Looks like he almost could have been played by this famous fellow...GARRY MARSHALL 1934 - 2016 In this deceiving world we can expect anything from anyone at anytime so why not?
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Post by emerald on Mar 10, 2018 6:12:01 GMT -5
REMEMBERING E-LIE THE WEASEL (1928-2016) Dredging daily through the Marxist muck of Sulzberger’s Slimes and the rest of Piranha Press is a job that can be as dirty as it is depressing. But every once in a while, a bit of good news provides cause for a smile and a “high-five / high-paw” between Sugar the Cat and your Editor here. The long overdue and hopefully unpleasant death of the sainted professional holohoaxer E-Lie the Weasel was one such event. user1662833.sites.myregisteredsite.com/elie_wiesel_phony.html
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