I wonder about the new movie "THE EXPENDABLES". Very suggestive title, right? 3 big names in the industry: STALLONE, SCHWARZENEGGER, WILLIS. 2 imposters and a real dude? Or 3 imposters? My 2 cents, anyway...
Regarding the high school pic of Halle, I think what is done by the powers behind this is that they sometimes steal a person's name/identity to use as a "name" in Hollywood without that person ever becoming famous for anything. This seems to be true with Julia Robert also.
The real Julia Roberts in high school, who never became famous...just a borrowed name
The real Halle Berry in high school, a face we never saw in the movies or on tv
..notice the difference in the upper lip between the two, among other things
I do believe that is one of many scenarios Mask. Do you think that these people were Milk Carton Children or runaways, and were taken underground cloned, and killed? Or do you think that their parents were military involved and handed over their children to be tortured, sacrificed, cloned, and identity stolen?
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"In times of deceit, telling the TRUTH becomes a revolutionary act"--- George Orwell
About Jane Fonda and the various possible Fanes......I remember in an interview she did (one of the Fanes probably?) she said that when she first came to Hollywood and tried to get work she was told very plainly that she was going to need to have a LOT of physical alterations in order to be "qualified" to work in the industry. I remember one of the alterations she mentioned was that people told her she was going to have to have her jaw broken and realigned to be considered camera worthy. She did not mention in this interview if she had agreed to have this process done, but she said it in a very matter of fact way, as if starlets having their jaws broken was absolutely a commonplace occurence in the 1960's in the Hollywood mill.
Now, of course, this was probably a Fane telling this story - because I watched this interview sometime in the late 80's or early 90's, and she was probably replaced at least once by that point. Perhaps she said this to explain aware the severe differences in her face shape between her early days as a starlet and later times.
But it really struck me - we tend to think of things like nose jobs, breast jobs, and the like as relatively newish required procedures for starlets. But this stuff has been pretty commonplace since at least as far back as the 1950's/1960's. Jaws broken? Sounds pretty extreme, doesn't it?
Another thing that struck me in that Fane interview was how calm and unconcerned she was describing this stuff - sure speaks to the mind control that wannabe celebs step into where they will do literally anything to their bodies to get work in Hollywood - and the horrible enslavement of the women, too.
It has long been rumored that Marilyn Monroe was an early recipient of silicone injections to her body/torso - the early version of a boob job - and that chronic pain stemming from this procedure was part of what nearly drove her mad, led to her severe emotional ups and downs, and her drug and alcohol addictions. I think it might well be a contributing factor if Farilyn the replacement had all of that stuff done to her. (I'm not talking about the original Norma Jane here, obviously.)
About Jennifer Connelly. I can say with 100% certainty that the "Fennifer" we see today is not the Jennifer I worked with on a John Hughes film called Career Opportunities. I didn't get to act with her much, but I did see her film several scenes. At that time I only knew her from Labyrinth, and I knew she had been a model.
Back then she had a more - elfin - quality than Fennifer has ever had. Hard to describe. But definitely there was an overall look to her features, especially since she was about 19 or so when she filmed this and she was young, of a slightly off kilter elfin quality. All the features were "perfect," but the symmetry made you think "supernatural, beautiful creature" instead of plasticized girl.
One thing I was shocked by at the time was that a lot of the crew and production team, including the assistant director, were making really dismissive and nasty comments about her. I remember them arrogantly asserting that if this film didn't work commercially, if it wasn't a success, then "it would be over for her." Or they might have said "It's all over for her."
I was really struck by the implied violence of that statement. And these people were drop dead serious as they said this. I heard this said by two crew members and also by the assistant director at separate points in several days worth of filming as they were standing around before and after scenes were filmed. At the time I just dismissed it as the cruelties of show business and how you only get one shot sometimes at a big breakthrough role. But since learning about how many replacements are happening, this statement keeps haunting me as I consider its implications.
The film didn't do well at the box office at all, and you didn't hear from Jennifer again until she did The Rocketeers which did okay commercially. And she did a movie where she was topless and was suddenly in the limelight again. I think at this point it was all Fennifer, though. It's like the original quiet, shy, and pretty girl I observed is gone and this version is more womanly (bigger in her frame and curvier than Jennifer was. The Jennifer I saw was tallish and skinny all over. No extra flesh anywhere! More of a classic waif thin model physique. )
One thing that they did seem to get right with Fennifer is the eyebrows. The seem pretty close to the original's eyebrows. I'm amazed at how they can get the really bushy eyebrow look on a woman who doesn't have thick eyebrows, but they can do it. The most dramatic illustration of eyebrow transplants is the new Megan Fox- Fegan. You'll see in some early photos of Megan that at one point she had extremely thin, over-plucked eyebrows. Once you've damaged the eyebrow line to that extent it doesn't grow back out into a full bushy line again. The Fegan has perfect, thick brows, and they look so perfect you can tell the hair is a transplant. (Yes, they DO eyebrow transplants. Kind of a common procedure if a woman has overplucked and doesn't have a good eyebrow line anymore.)
I am not sure I agree with you about Connelly being replacing that early on. i will have to research it. It's very interesting you were on a movie set with her. Quite revealing the nature of the movie business.