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JFK
Dec 9, 2010 0:53:01 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Dec 9, 2010 0:53:01 GMT -5
There was a book/reports about JFK being seen at literary/hollywood elite parties in NYC a year after the assassination (with Truman Capote, for example). See the book T heJFK Reader (1993) which has a mention and brief discussion of this fake, staged-assassination report/theory. Another of JFK's hollywood mistresses/slaves was Angie Dickinson (later the star of tv series "Police Woman"), by the way. Farilyn Fonroe is the netter know one (shared by JFK and RFK). Correction: the name of the book I mentioned is Who Shot JFK? not "The JFK Reader".... sorry for the mistake.
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JFK
Dec 18, 2010 20:58:41 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Dec 18, 2010 20:58:41 GMT -5
According to Brice Taylor, she claimed the MOB got JFK. Which I do remember this being a story going on about what happened to him.
Which if you go by her book, it's not likely that JFK was confined to a wheelchair, when he was frisky with her out and about, and in the white house with Jackie in another room.
Makes me wonder if Jackie was mind controlled to the point where she wouldn't react to his affairs...like to into another alter when she thought or heard him with someone???
Brice even wrote that she was used to "train" the Kennedy sons...like JohnJOhn when he was 12. Break them in first with a slave, and then train them on how to handle slaves as they got older.
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JFK
Dec 19, 2010 16:41:25 GMT -5
Post by treegenus on Dec 19, 2010 16:41:25 GMT -5
According to Brice Taylor, she claimed the MOB got JFK. Which I do remember this being a story going on about what happened to him. Which if you go by her book, it's not likely that JFK was confined to a wheelchair, when he was frisky with her out and about, and in the white house with Jackie in another room. Makes me wonder if Jackie was mind controlled to the point where she wouldn't react to his affairs...like to into another alter when she thought or heard him with someone??? Brice even wrote that she was used to "train" the Kennedy sons...like JohnJOhn when he was 12. Break them in first with a slave, and then train them on how to handle slaves as they got older. Brice Taylor explodes her tales about the deep, deep level nefarious world that we (only partially, I hope) live in with an odd clarity. And we are sometimes amazingly shocked at the 'connections' in this evil web but - what if Brice Taylor is really a modern version of The Diary of Anne Frank and we all know that was aslightly twisted from the truth, work of fabrication, when we do our research. What if Brice turns out to be an inserted illusion to detract us and detour us to think 'this' is the road to uncovering the true out there. Just to play Devil's Advocate, what documentation is out there exactly validating Brice, if I may ask?
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JFK
Dec 19, 2010 17:50:15 GMT -5
Post by beatlies on Dec 19, 2010 17:50:15 GMT -5
According to Brice Taylor, she claimed the MOB got JFK. Which I do remember this being a story going on about what happened to him. Which if you go by her book, it's not likely that JFK was confined to a wheelchair, when he was frisky with her out and about, and in the white house with Jackie in another room. Makes me wonder if Jackie was mind controlled to the point where she wouldn't react to his affairs...like to into another alter when she thought or heard him with someone??? Brice even wrote that she was used to "train" the Kennedy sons...like JohnJOhn when he was 12. Break them in first with a slave, and then train them on how to handle slaves as they got older. Quite possibly Jackie herself was in the CIA, and joined before marrying JFK. There's a thread in www.letsroll911.org about this.
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JFK
Dec 19, 2010 19:10:11 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Dec 19, 2010 19:10:11 GMT -5
Funny you said that, I remember talking with a friend and she had some book, don't recall the title, but my friend read that Jackie was part of it, so that wouldn't surprise me...nothing surprises me...it just makes me sick the more I read....
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JFK
Dec 19, 2010 19:11:04 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Dec 19, 2010 19:11:04 GMT -5
Well, there may be questions to Brice's story, but there are other mind control victims telling their stories and it seems to be so much like the others....
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JFK
Dec 22, 2010 12:29:24 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Dec 22, 2010 12:29:24 GMT -5
Brice Taylor explodes her tales about the deep, deep level nefarious world that we (only partially, I hope) live in with an odd clarity. And we are sometimes amazingly shocked at the 'connections' in this evil web but - what if Brice Taylor is really a modern version of The Diary of Anne Frank and we all know that was aslightly twisted from the truth, work of fabrication, when we do our research. What if Brice turns out to be an inserted illusion to detract us and detour us to think 'this' is the road to uncovering the true out there. Just to play Devil's Advocate, what documentation is out there exactly validating Brice, if I may ask? My test is: Does mainstream media/Hollywood push it? If so it can be counted on to be BS. On the other hand if they ignore and/or "debunk" it, it's likely to be the truth. So far Brice's material passes my test.
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JFK
Dec 23, 2010 20:11:06 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Dec 23, 2010 20:11:06 GMT -5
I didn't get any warning signs when I read that it's crap. When I read something and I just don't get a good feeling about it, I don't continue reading it. It's usually a good warning that something is amiss. Though I may not be knowledgeable on the subject, there's just something I suspect could be amiss. But I'd recommend researchers to read the book just to gain insights for research and learn about these celebs.
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JFK
Jan 20, 2011 15:31:56 GMT -5
Post by bobthebuilder on Jan 20, 2011 15:31:56 GMT -5
Well, I have a viewpoint on this that many will probably reject and might also piss off some people but I will tell it. If they want to get rid of someone, they just get rid of him -- usually with no or few witnesses and often as an "accident" or "suicide." When something is done in front of millions of people it is a psyop. It is done to create an effect on the masses. They would never do an actual hit with such a complex, risky scenario in front of so many witnesses. The JFK "assassination" was not a hit -- it was a psyop. It was designed to cause shock in the American people and it succeeded. It had nothing to do with eliminating anyone which is why I believe they didn't kill JFK, at least not on that day in Dallas. Following the event in Dallas major USA gun control legislation was passed and has continued to be passed ever since. Gun laws were very, very different before that event. I suspect that this was the major reason for the "assassination" which was likely planned well in advance of his election and I believe the other proposed reasons that are frequently tossed around are likely red herrings. I know this reason disappoints a lot of people but this is the biggest change in America that was ushered in by the JFK "assassination" psyop and it is a major point on their agenda. I also suspect that JFK was not the man he was made out to be and that many people believe him to be. I think that the JFK persona was a media creation and was pure fiction as was Jackie's. I think his true personality was quite different from the public image. I don't think he was viewed as a threat to the PTB or that he was going to reveal anything, etc. I think his presidency was a scam from beginning to end. Most likely a Tavistock creation that pushed all the right buttons at all the right times on all the right issues. Hollywood, as always, helped this image along immensely. It was all done to create maximum shock at his later "assassination." I know that viewpoint offends a lot of people but I do think it's at least closer to the truth than any other idea I've heard about the JFK assassination. There's no doubt in my mind that the JFK hit was a psy-op, and as mentioned by many others, quite possibly a symbolic killing as well. I believe the Zapruder film was meant to be seen by the public all along. You hear so many stories of people having their cameras confiscated by secret service agents (or people impersonating secret service agents.), and you can also see how in the area where JFK was shot, there ws considerably few people in the crowd than there were in other parts of the plaza. It seems clear to me that the whole area was controlled. So how did Zapruder manage to stand in the conspicuous place that he did and manage to get away with capturing his footage without the attention of one of the many perps there closely controlling the scene? You can also see in photos Zapruder walking away from the scene as if not particularly interested, when just about everyone else was rushing around in panic. I can't help but wonder if he knew what was going to happen. Also notice how he asked someone to stand behind him on the wall, 'to help keep him steady', thus having a completely reliable witness to him capturing the footage therefore adding credibility and diverting any possible suspicion of him. It's also interesting to note that despite having someone standing behind him, 'keeping him steady', he managed to almost 'bodge' the shot, by keeping most of the action at the bottom of the frame. Always thought that was a bit strange.
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JFK
Jan 20, 2011 15:39:34 GMT -5
Post by bobthebuilder on Jan 20, 2011 15:39:34 GMT -5
This is a thread - and forum overall - that's worth looking at. www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=75Taken from a post on the thread: ABRAHAM ZAPRUDER This is the guy who was credited with filming the video that depicts the assassination. findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _55352214/ -Abraham Zapruder and George de Mohrenschildt were both part of the Dallas Council on World Affairs, a CIA front that was founded by Neil Mallon (George H.W Bush's mentor).
-Zapruder's business partner married George de Mohrenschildt, a CIA operative who was Oswald's "best friend" (handler) had close ties to George H.W Bush and who was "suicided".
-Zapruder was friends with the mother of LBJ's personal secretary, and who was with him on AF1 after Kennedy was killed. Her family went to Lynda Johnson's wedding to Chuck Robb.
-Zapruder was a member of The Crusade For A Free Europe, which was a CIA front.
-Zapruder was a 33rd Degree Freemason.
-Two of the groups that Zapruder belonged to were also groups that Clint Murchison, D.H. Byrd, George Bush, Sarah Hughes, H.L. Hunt, Neil Mallon, and other suspects.
-Zapruder's office was in the Dal-Tex Building, which most researchers believe was one of the buildings used by the hit team to fire shots at Kennedy. Dal-Tex had connections to Zionists.
-Before the Zapruder Arbitration Board, Zapruder's family was represented by Robert Bennett, a former CIA official and Bill Clinton's lawyer.
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JFK
Jan 20, 2011 20:49:17 GMT -5
Post by lucy on Jan 20, 2011 20:49:17 GMT -5
INteresting observation about Zapruder. Indeed how was his film NOT confiscated? I do remember years ago on Geraldo, he had some blonde bomshell type who worked at a nightclub supposedly associated with Jack Ruby and her camera and film were confiscated...why not this one???
Yet something else is rotten..in Dallas.
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JFK
May 18, 2011 20:42:33 GMT -5
Post by palomine on May 18, 2011 20:42:33 GMT -5
The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper when you examine the Zapruder film for evidence that Jackie shot JFK: jackiekilledjfk.webs.com/
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JFK
Jun 23, 2011 11:21:41 GMT -5
Post by sherlok on Jun 23, 2011 11:21:41 GMT -5
On IFC I caught a few minutes (all I could stand) of a documentary called "Grey Gardens," a film about Jackie's aunt and cousin who have both apparently gone insane.
Here are a few clips:
A recent campy comedy Broadway musical features characters that mimic the 2 women in this film.
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JFK
Jun 23, 2011 18:45:38 GMT -5
Post by goro on Jun 23, 2011 18:45:38 GMT -5
On IFC I caught a few minutes (all I could stand) of a documentary called "Grey Gardens," a film about Jackie's aunt and cousin who have both apparently gone insane. Here are a few clips: A recent campy comedy Broadway musical features characters that mimic the 2 women in this film. Yeah, that one is a strange story. Jackie let them live in absolute filth and poverty - their home filled with animals, racoons, poo from the animals, piles of old magazines and papers and clothes, - until the famous documentary came out about them and it was revealed they were related to her - then the news spin was how Jackie went to huge expense, like, spending $50,000 or something, to clean up the house and help the women. Probably all bullsh*t, of course. But the women were sure characters!
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JFK
Nov 15, 2011 15:39:21 GMT -5
Post by artemis on Nov 15, 2011 15:39:21 GMT -5
"AP Exclusive: Lost JFK assassination tapes on sale PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A long-lost version of the Air Force One recordings made in the immediate aftermath of President John F. Kennedy's assassination, with more than 30 minutes of additional material not in the official version in the government's archives, has been found and is for sale. There are incidents and code names described on the newly discovered two-plus hour recording, which predates the shorter and newer recording currently housed in the National Archives outside Washington and the Lyndon B. Johnson Library in Texas. The shorter recording was thought to be the only surviving version of the tape. The asking price is $500,000 for the reel-to-reel tape, which is inside its original box with a typewritten label showing it was made by the White House Communications Agency for Army Gen. Chester "Ted" Clifton Jr. It is titled "Radio Traffic involving AF-1 in flight from Dallas, Texas to Andrews AFB on November 22, 1963." "As Americans have looked to the history of the Kennedy assassination in search of answers, somewhere in an attic there existed a tape made years before the only known surviving version, of the conversations on Air Force One on that fateful day," said Nathan Raab, vice president of The Raab Collection, a Philadelphia historic documents dealer that put the tape up for sale Tuesday. The recording is the highlight of the personal effects from the estate of Clifton, who was Kennedy's senior military aide and was in the Dallas motorcade when the president was assassinated. Clifton, who died in 1991, had kept a collection of audio tapes, documents, photographs and video stemming from his years in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. The Raab Collection, which is selling the tape and the rest of the archive, acquired the items at a public sale from Clifton's heirs after the death of Clifton's wife in 2009. "At a time when there really wasn't what we consider today a chief of staff, Clifton carried on many of those functions," Raab said. "He retires in 1965, this goes with him." The recording consists of in-flight radio calls between the aircraft, the White House Situation Room, Andrews Air Force Base, and a plane that was carrying Kennedy press secretary Pierre Salinger and six Cabinet members from Hawaii to Tokyo when the president was assassinated. The Clifton tapes include additional debate about whether Kennedy's body would be brought to Bethesda Naval Hospital or Walter Reed Hospital for autopsy and if first lady Jackie Kennedy would accompany the fallen president, as well as expanded discussions about arranging for ambulances and limousines to meet the plane. No references to Kennedy nemesis Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay occur in the shorter version, but the Clifton tape contains an urgent attempt by an aide to contact him. The aide, seeking to interrupt Air Force transmissions to reach LeMay, is heard saying the general "is in a C140. Last three numbers are 497. His code name is Grandson. And I want to talk to him." The whereabouts of LeMay, whose enmity for the president makes him a central figure for Kennedy assassination researchers, have long been disputed. The newly discovered recording can finally end the speculation and pinpoint his location immediately after the president's murder, Raab said. Other conversations on the tape refer to "Monument" and "W.T.E." — code names for people as yet unknown — and someone only called "John." Parts of the audio are difficult to discern because several conversations from the different patches are going on simultaneously. Raab said their digital recording was made as a straightforward recording, not as a forensic analysis, and current or future technology may be able to tease out and enhance the conversations. The edited recording in the National Archives and the LBJ Library, available to the public since 1971, begins with an announcer stating it has been "edited and condensed" but not explaining how much was cut or by whom. A more complete version of the Air Force One tapes were long sought but never found, adding fuel to decades-old suspicions that there is more to Kennedy's assassination than the official account naming Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone gunman. The Assassination Records Review Board, created by an act of Congress in 1992 after the Oliver Stone film "JFK" caused public uproar to re-examine Kennedy's killing, unsuccessfully sought the unedited Air Force One tapes for its probe. Its final report in 1998, the board said the LBJ Library version was filled with crude breaks and chopped conversations. "That this tape even exists will change the way we view this great event in history," Raab said. "It took decades to analyze the shorter, newer version and it will take years to do the same here." The Clifton tape has been professionally digitized and a copy is being donated by the Raab Collection to the National Archives and the John F. Kennedy Library so the public will have access to the material even if the original tape is sold to a private collector. The wholly unedited "raw" recording of the entirety of the trip, which also would have included periods of silence and static, has never been located. It would have been roughly 4½ hours long." www.raabcollection.com/kennedy-air-force-one-tape/
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