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Post by goro on Jun 21, 2011 10:00:53 GMT -5
Re: Christie/Fhristie - where did the pointy chin in the first photo go? The second poor thing certainly doesn't have it, and the second one also looks tortured and starved and traumatized.
About Fom Hanks - watched a rerun of an episode of the NBC comedy 30 Rock last night and Tom Hanks/Fom had a short cameo in it. He was very funny, actually - and he looked nothing like new rubbery Fom who is appearing in that new movie. If the new movie was filmed within the past year and a half, and the episode of 30 Rock was filmed within the past year, then it looks to me like both Toms were actively working and "on the scene" as actors at the same time. Weird.
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Post by artemis on Jun 21, 2011 10:06:49 GMT -5
Its weird to us, Goro, but not to them, remember...
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Post by goro on Jun 21, 2011 13:02:48 GMT -5
Its weird to us, Goro, but not to them, remember... So true! The two concepts explored here at this wonderful board which I've had the hardest time wrapping my head around are: 1) How so many stars appear to be replaced long before fame -- which really hints at longterm, intense planning and grooming of that star as a "brand" over time and 2) How replacements, clones, and synths can be used at the same time - I can understand the stunt double idea, such as using a Fady f*ga to do Lady Gaga's publicity appearances for her since a star's schedule is so demanding and they can't be everywhere at once (unless they use doubles.) But in the Fritney photos you recently posted we see two or three different doubles performing at the same concert, at the same time, on the same night. I'm still wrapping my brains around that one. And then when I saw a Fom Hanks on that TV cameo last night and I analyzed the time issues, I could clearly see that rubbery Fom made that new movie with Julia Roberts within the last year or so but this other Fom was available to do that short TV cameo. So they even have multiples doing the "real" work of that star like singing different songs in a concert or doing acting in different projects. Every time I think I've begun to understand the scope of this stuff, I'm wrong!
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Post by artemis on Jun 21, 2011 13:11:43 GMT -5
With FRITNEY on my mind, Im sure that the same thing happened at MICHAEL/FICHAEL JACKSON's concerts (and not only, of course). Who'd have noticed the difference, lets get real? And if noticed, it would have been ignored coz thats why sheeple are for.
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Post by sherlok on Jun 21, 2011 13:29:53 GMT -5
Josef Mengele was said to be fascinated with twins. Maybe he is at the root of all of this -- controlling the masses using idolized multiples.
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Post by artemis on Jun 21, 2011 13:50:58 GMT -5
I hate to repeat myself but I cant help doing it: the real Mengele is not the same person with the monster who borrowed his name. Talking about replacements. Everyone is blabbing his name and demonizing him: Mengele was, Mengele did... MENGELE WAS REPLACED. I dont know if only once, but he got replaced anyway. By a Jewish scum. Like many other German heroes and important personalities portrayed as criminals by the Zio owned media. Enuff said.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 21, 2011 14:21:15 GMT -5
Josef Mengele was said to be fascinated with twins. Maybe he is at the root of all of this -- controlling the masses using idolized multiples. Jozef Mengele was a big part of it, and his horrific, murderous experiments on Jewish children at Auschwitz were an extension of the work relating to twins and proto-cloning research in Nazi Germany that was being funded by the Rockefellers before the U.S. entered World War II in December 1941 (with Axis Japan's Pearl Harbor sneak attack). The cover of war and genocide/eugenics-secrecy at the Nazi death camps gave Dr. Mengele the opportunity to do completely immoral research on humans (the Nazis and their friends called Jews and Gypsies inferior "sub-humans") as if they were lab rats, and hence much more "valuable" and "useful" findings came that the Allies (USA, UK, USSR etc.) could not obtain because no scientists were able to stoop that low morally. SO after the war, Mengele and other Nazi doctors were secretly protected by the USA, UK, Canada, NATO because the US was now embarking on making a controlled media, purging "communists" in Hollywood, and we now realize, massive use of CIA ghostwriters, doubles, imposters, maybe even real human clones eventually. Mengele apparently faked his death in 1979 after renewed calls to pull him out of hiding in the fascist states of South AMerica. Mengele's family were rich and well-known agricultural supply and vehicle manufacturers in West Germany (and still are to this day). Much more to say here about this Satanic scum.... do a search on previous Mengele posts in this forum to see some really crucial and shocking material in regard to Mengele and the whole doppelgangers phenomenon.
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Post by goro on Jun 22, 2011 12:32:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt that a lot of our favorite "villains" are actually replacements - makes sense to me.
Remember, too, that everything the Nazis allegedly came up with dates back much further; Vril aliens aka the pale evil Nordics whom Hitler was in contact with - Hitler famously talked about them appearing to him and telling him he would rule the world with their help when he was in hospital suffering injuries from WWI - those critters have been around a LONG time. I think many of them are actually remnants of the immensely evil but technologically advanced Atlanteans who dominated that continent in its later years. They were doing all this stuff, plus all the stuff we see in mainstream science today like in vitro fertilization, experimenting with pig parts as heart vales since their genetics are so close to ours - they were even breeding pig/human hybrids back then. Completely cold and evil and they NEVER went away.
They're all hanging out together now in places like South America and the Antartic. Bleah.
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Post by carlito on Jun 23, 2011 15:10:47 GMT -5
Couldn't find this one in a search, don't know if it has been mentioned before but what about Steve Guttenberg?
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Post by artemis on Jun 23, 2011 15:15:13 GMT -5
He has never been mentioned here.
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Post by beatlies on Jun 24, 2011 18:46:51 GMT -5
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Post by goro on Jun 25, 2011 8:32:51 GMT -5
And the career gap for Williams was right before he was suddenly positioned in "big" movies like 1987's Good Morning Vietnam, which had huge buzz at the time about him being more dramatic as well as comedic - the start of his rise to stardom doing a lot of dramatic work mixed in with the comedies.
I have a relative who was an extra on The World According to Garp, which he filmed in 1982. She didn't interact with him much but said that overall he seemed very serious and self-contained. Is this the manic Williams of later years? Probably not. Of course, that was a serious and more dramatic type fo movie, but still.
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Post by artemis on Jun 26, 2011 16:00:29 GMT -5
NICOLAS CAGE's turn today. IMO he was replaced somewhere at the beginning of the 90's though sometimes its very hard to tell, I admit. Interesting to see how his droopy eyes have became straight with time... The original vs. a clone/imposter NIC in 1981 www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL-yzCxPMMcTHE BEST OF TIMES (debut) www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQdJX8ZmLTkFAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH VALLEY GIRL RUMBLE FISH RACING WITH THE MOON THE COTTON CLUB BIRDY THE BOY IN BLUE PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED RAISING ARIZONA MOONSTRUCK VAMPIRE'S KISS TEMPO DI UCCIDERE FIRE BIRDS WILD AT HEART ZANDALEE HONEYMOON IN VEGAS AMOS&ANDREW RED ROCK WEST DEADFALL IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU TRAPPED IN PARADISE KISS OF DEATH LEAVING LAS VEGAS THE ROCK CON AIR FACE/OFF CITY OF ANGELS SNAKE EYES 8MM (I read that FICOLAS is actually a fan of such movies) BRINGING OUT THE DEAD GONE IN 60 SECONDS THE FAMILY MAN CAPTAIN CORELLI'S MANDOLIN WINDTALKERS ADAPTATION Any hint with this double role? MATCHSTICK MEN NATIONAL TREASURE LORD OF WAR THE WEATHER MAN WTC THE WICKER MAN GHOST RIDER NATIONAL TREASURE: BOOK OF SECRETS BANGKOK DANGEROUS KNOWING THE BAD LIEUTENANT: PORT OF CALL - NEW ORLEANS KICK-ASS THE SORCERER'S APPRENTICE SEASON OF THE WITCH DRIVE ANGRY TRESPASS Profile comps CON AIR BANGKOK DANGEROUS BIRDY FAMILY MAN IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU KISS OF DEATH HONEYMOON IN VEGAS PEGGY SUE GOT MARRIED RED ROCK WEST Comps Clones While filming for another series of GHOST RIDER, in my country, city of Sibiu, at the beginning of this year. He threw a terrible tantrum here that he scared everyone around him... And fun
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Post by goro on Jul 2, 2011 11:35:54 GMT -5
Hey, Artemis, sorry I completely missed this post of yours from the other day!
Definitely shapeshifter qualities going on here.
One thing that stood out for me was the photo of him in 8MM and the first photo beneath that for Bringing out the Dead - his eyes don't track properly - meaning, one looks a little lazy or goes off to the side. All of the other photos seem to show someone whose eyes are in synch. Since we've often speculated that droopy eyes or "lazy" eyes can be a sign of programming and/or/torture, that could be what was happening there, but I don't think a lazy eye suddenly returns to normal, does it? And later photos you've posted don't show that problem with him.
Also when you look at the photo from Valley Girl and compare it to the one beneath it, Rumblefish, we see the Valley Girl Nic who has those oval shaped and droopy eyes and then in Rumblefish we see someone with straight eyes. But then in the sequence of photos after that they seem to switch back and forth between the extreme droopy eyes and the straight eyes.
So.....I'm not positive, but I would venture a guess that at least two Nics were being swapped out for different movies for a period of years. What's tricky is that, depending on the years, it might be that they were both working at the same time. So two different Nics working at the same time. Not necessarily a FIRST Nic who then disappears and is replaced by a SECOND Nic, but two different Nics working in the same time period. Then over time it looks like straight eye Nic bceame the "brand" officially and we're not seeing the originally droopy eye guy anymore.
I still need to look at these more carefully to be sure of what I'm seeing, so these are initial impressions.
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Post by artemis on Jul 2, 2011 15:58:37 GMT -5
A little time ago I read that one of the FIC's is a snuff movie lover - ironically - in real life. Im trying hard to find the right pics and sometimes unfortunately I have troubles in doing it. For RUMBLEFISH that was all I found, the pic from that angle. Im sure a front one would look differently. It doesnt seem to me that in that movie his eyes are straight, only the angle is different.
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