Self-Help for... CLONES

[GetSmart]

Hi folks, and especially Hello Clones!


This thread is designed to be one of the first reference threads on the Internet especially dedicated to greeting clones who are seeking to better understand what they are experiencing and to figure out what is going on behind it all.


Most people on Earth have loads of problems. The problem of survival, putting food on the table (or on your family's head as a Clone of George W. Bush once said). People also have existential problems because they find themselves living on a planet in the middle of Lord knows where, building a life destiny just to wind up dead and no longer around. What lies ahead past that curve in the road remains an impenetrable mystery to which they try to reply through science, religion, philosophy and superstition.


But don't clones have even bigger problems than other people? For example, humans assume they are humans among other humans. So they aren't too uncomfortable about who they are and who others are.


But clones are deluded into thinking they are humans, in sum fooled at least until telltale signs reveal to them a self-awareness that they are clones. Thereupon they are no longer patsies, just victims of their former ignorance and at the same time confronted with their new knowledge that they are not what people think they are, and even less what people think that they have a right to be.


After all, who hasn't felt like they're aging too quickly? And don't we all get some memory loss these days? What about an event in one's past where one suddenly changed and felt like a new or better person? Were you ever reborn? Does that mean you're a clone? Search your memories, have any of your features changed. Does your belly button look the same as when you were a kid?


We are in a world with emerging human rights, gender and racial rights, children's rights, animal rights, and even ecosystem rights through a growing fascination with our own impending doom. But nobody is speaking up about the rights of clones. These should be at the forefront of debate.


QUESTIONS FOR CLONES:


- How can you remember when you were cloned and first took over your replacement identity? Will regressive hypnosis work on you and reveal this, or are you impermeable due to limiting design features?

- What visual or mental techniques or tests can you use to verify without a doubt that you aren't the original person, but instead a well designed biological double with great similarities yet with a few noteworthy small but revealing differences?

- If you are shocked to discover you are a clone, where can you go for help without being rapidly disposed of as a defective unit and becoming yourself replaced?

- How can you come to grips with your limited life span and rapid ageing while the humans around you stay in good shape?

- How should you act around humans that either don't realize you aren't whom they imagine, while all the time you know they're clueless? Or worse, how to respond to those who realize you're an impostor and who are aggressive, targeting their despair and anger at you?

- Do clones have the right to live? Or is this just a conditional privilege extended to them by humans?

- Can humans kill a clone with impunity?
(we shall assume the reverse is not the case, unless otherwise instructed)

- Are clones to be bonded by allegiance only to other clones?

- How far should clones and humans mingle?

- To what extent are clones human?

- Are clones 100% human plus burdened with being clones?

- Are humans just clones made the old fashioned way, with few genetic resources and random course placenta gestation?

- Is clone programming really that different from human social conditioning? What extra features do you have, what important things are missing?

- Was clone software designed by Wal-Mart employee trainers?
(Sorry, had to make a joke + it kinda looks that way, doesn't it?)

- Should clones be offended by bad clone jokes in poor taste?

- Does the original memory donor's spirit survive inside a clone?

- Does a clone actually become Him/Her, continuing a consciousness with no awareness of what might be missing, not having received it as a reference?

- If you think you are a clone, how can you deal with the fact that you are probably very manipulated, purposely in ways which evade your detection or which you are made to forget?

- How can a clone access their firmware, software and outer layers of programming? What dangers are involved?

- Can a clone learn, and learn to become? What is your grip on destiny?

- Is a clone always an individual personality or can a clone have Alters?

- How can you deal with the impression that you may have been copied several times over, and that a messy copy and paste done too many times makes you feel like your grasp on yourself and on reality is slipping away?

- Humans usually consider that it is wrong and against nature to commit suicide. Is the same true for clones? If clones aren't meant to be, does the fact that they ARE mean that they must stay alive? Do they have a duty to live, or maybe a duty to end their inadmissible existence?

- If you are a clone, there is a strong likelihood that the person from whom you originate is no longer alive. You have is the uncomfortable situation of not being an original along with the medical issues of being a clone and the likeliness of strange humans called Illuminati - unless they are themselves some pretty weird and wicked clones - manipulating you for unknown purposes. Should you rebel, and if so, how?

- If they died of old age you have to decide if you perpetuate them or lead an entirely different life, as long as your entourage lets it happen or if you decide to leave for a one way journey. Do you have a duty to their individuality or to your own life?

- If you were injected into their life to replace them suddenly, taking up where they left off, you were unwillingly mixed up in the theft of their life. You were both indirectly involved in their murder as well as becoming their greatest form of partial survival through their memories in your mind. Should you risk killing the surviving ghost of their personality in seeking justice against their murderers?

- As someone's clone, should you be obedient of your puppeteers or to the personality you have replicated?

- As a clone, should you be loyal only to yourself, or do you have an inherent duty to the originator of your identity, the ONE who came first and built themselves and you into who you are?

- If so, is this because they came before you, because they Made You, because your presence allowed them to be removed, or because they were human and you aren't?

- Does any duty to your predecessor extend to other clones who perpetuated their identity before your turn came up? Weren't they unabashedly disposed of without consideration for their services?

- Is there a higher duty for clones, to other clones, to humans or to all people whether human or not?

- Who are your friends and who is your enemy? With what limited time available in a clone's life, and very constrained margins of freedom of thought and action, what end games can you play?


Thanks for posting your replies to any of the above questions so that we may help Clones stricken with soul searching questions to come to grips with their existential condition. They may also help us gain perspective regarding how they normally function and what goes through their mind on a routine basis. Hopefully a mutually accepting society of beings, regardless of origins, will develop taking into account the dominant inescapable issue of justice for those killed and replaced, and respect for individuals in an oppressively controlled and enslaved society.

[papadave]

great work GetSmart

[faulconandsnowjob]

Um, I doubt clones are doing much "soul-searching" since they don't have souls :-P

"...or on your family's head as a Clone of George W. Bush once said)." LOL! That makes me think of the robotoid Jimmy Carter that started breaking down, claiming it'd been attacked by a "swamp rabbit."

[GetSmart]

Oct 15, 2009 3:01:58 GMT -5 @faulconandsnowjob said:

Um, I doubt clones are doing much "soul-searching" since they don't have souls :-P

Hi Faulcon,

Glad you're here regularly keeping the ideas fusing!

Regarding whether clones have souls... what should we conclude?
OK, we'll be lucky if we can so much as inconclusively speculate:

"One of the first clones he created was a J-typing Omega E-Delta-Two, or JOE for short. JOE spent 365 days growing in the tank. These first clones were a failure, because they had a conscience. “The brass were still waiting for me, the project’s senior scientist, to give an explanation for J.O.E’s seemingly clear failure to kill a dog, a harmless and gentle animal. I rather incautiously, and injudiciously, began a little, insecure attempt to explain J.O.E.’s inability to carry out a clearly immoral order...."

"Gentlemen, this is an unbelievable advance in science, the full, not partial ability to read accurately genetic codes—but not just to read them, to redo, remodel, reconstruct-dash-manipulate, reconstruct and plan genetic codes, not just cloning, but to create a viable human-like and incredibly ability-endowed superior human, a powerhouse of mind and muscle, but human nevertheless..."[/i]

nesara.insights2.org/Clones2.html

The author writing this testimonial appears to believe that in the early U.S. Military experiments in human cloning that invariably a Soul came with the entity. Apparently this much displeased the "brass" commissioning this research given that their primary motivation was to create soldiers who wouldn't dispute orders by being unhampered with a human soul. Going to such effort and expense to come up with a plain old human being like they had already under their command was considered a failure.

If we can assume that the cloning process without tampering gives a clone who has a soul and is in most respects a normal human being, then this thread makes sense.

However, they may have "improved" (read: downgraded) the process to produce clones that are without souls. If so, would this mean that most of the currently seeded clones sprinkled throughout civil society are without soul? Could some have one and others not?

Regarding this subject, I read one of your posts which revealed what might be the key to understanding this subject if it proves accurate. I'll quote it here.

Human souls can be extracted from their bodies, reprogrammed while in an etheric state, and inserted into a duplicate physical body. Upon completion, this process results in an individual who shares his or her former superficial identity but is covertly and perhaps unknowingly in complete subservience to the agenda of his or her programmers, to the point of going against his own previous ideals and opinions and instead disseminating disinformation dressed up by the credibility of his former self.

Memory is stored in the etheric, between the mental and etheric bodies, and it can be altered in the human. It can also be erased, and by taking the soul and these bodies from one physical body and putting them into another replica of the physical body, they can actually bring about a changed person with a different philosophy or different values, and yet the entity would essentially be the same personality.

It is also on this level that the technique whereby souls can be extracted from the physical and transferred into other bodies or into replicas. That in the transference there can also be the alteration of memories, values and qualities of the soul, so that an entity can appear to be the same, but there will be certain changes that have occurred that may be unseen, and the attitude and purposes and directions of the entity may then be controlled. this occurs when the vibratory qualities of a soul are extracted by these electronic equipment from a body and moved into another.

This needs not necessarily be a replica of the entity; it can be a totally different person’s body, in which case it becomes what is termed a walk-in. If it is a replica, it will tend to work with the replica to create the final features that result in a duplication of the features of the entity. This generally takes place on the almost human form, when the mind-state or soul energies, including the various electro-body energies are transferred, and as they begin to grow and attach themselves to that almost human form. The features then begin to solidify, to match the features of the electro-magnetic energies and the soul energies and astral energies and other mental and etheric bodies of the older original being.

[GetSmart]

Oct 15, 2009 3:01:58 GMT -5 @faulconandsnowjob said:

Um, I doubt clones are doing much "soul-searching" since they don't have souls :-P

Hi Faulcon,

Glad you're here regularly keeping the ideas fusing!

Regarding whether clones have souls... what should we conclude?
OK, we'll be lucky if we can so much as inconclusively speculate:

"One of the first clones he created was a J-typing Omega E-Delta-Two, or JOE for short. JOE spent 365 days growing in the tank. These first clones were a failure, because they had a conscience. “The brass were still waiting for me, the project’s senior scientist, to give an explanation for J.O.E’s seemingly clear failure to kill a dog, a harmless and gentle animal. I rather incautiously, and injudiciously, began a little, insecure attempt to explain J.O.E.’s inability to carry out a clearly immoral order...."

"Gentlemen, this is an unbelievable advance in science, the full, not partial ability to read accurately genetic codes—but not just to read them, to redo, remodel, reconstruct-dash-manipulate, reconstruct and plan genetic codes, not just cloning, but to create a viable human-like and incredibly ability-endowed superior human, a powerhouse of mind and muscle, but human nevertheless..."[/i]

nesara.insights2.org/Clones2.html

The author writing this testimonial appears to believe that in the early U.S. Military experiments in human cloning that invariably a Soul came with the entity. Apparently this much displeased the "brass" commissioning this research given that their primary motivation was to create soldiers who wouldn't dispute orders by being unhampered with a human soul. Going to such effort and expense to come up with a plain old human being like they had already under their command was considered a failure.

If we can assume that the cloning process without tampering gives a clone who has a soul and is in most respects a normal human being, then this thread makes sense.

However, they may have "improved" (read: downgraded) the process to produce clones that are without souls. If so, would this mean that most of the currently seeded clones sprinkled throughout civil society are without soul? Could some have one and others not?

Regarding this subject, I read one of your posts which revealed what might be the key to understanding this subject if it proves accurate. I'll quote it here.

Human souls can be extracted from their bodies, reprogrammed while in an etheric state, and inserted into a duplicate physical body. Upon completion, this process results in an individual who shares his or her former superficial identity but is covertly and perhaps unknowingly in complete subservience to the agenda of his or her programmers, to the point of going against his own previous ideals and opinions and instead disseminating disinformation dressed up by the credibility of his former self.

Memory is stored in the etheric, between the mental and etheric bodies, and it can be altered in the human. It can also be erased, and by taking the soul and these bodies from one physical body and putting them into another replica of the physical body, they can actually bring about a changed person with a different philosophy or different values, and yet the entity would essentially be the same personality.

It is also on this level that the technique whereby souls can be extracted from the physical and transferred into other bodies or into replicas. That in the transference there can also be the alteration of memories, values and qualities of the soul, so that an entity can appear to be the same, but there will be certain changes that have occurred that may be unseen, and the attitude and purposes and directions of the entity may then be controlled. this occurs when the vibratory qualities of a soul are extracted by these electronic equipment from a body and moved into another.

This needs not necessarily be a replica of the entity; it can be a totally different person’s body, in which case it becomes what is termed a walk-in. If it is a replica, it will tend to work with the replica to create the final features that result in a duplication of the features of the entity. This generally takes place on the almost human form, when the mind-state or soul energies, including the various electro-body energies are transferred, and as they begin to grow and attach themselves to that almost human form. The features then begin to solidify, to match the features of the electro-magnetic energies and the soul energies and astral energies and other mental and etheric bodies of the older original being.

[faulconandsnowjob]

The JOE is an interesting case. Perhaps a soul chose to enter the body as a walk-in. It could also be possible that the mind that was cloned was kind/had a conscience, & the JOE's refusal to kill the dog was a reflection of that.

[rainbeaubleu]

If someone created a clone for a specific mission or purpose, I'd think they would microchip it so that they could control/influence it remotely. I wouldn't be surprised if special government clones were chipped to interface with military applications of defense/offense, police and whomever made them. I don't trust micro chipped beings, natural or otherwise.

As long as the clones had 'free will' or weren't controlled by someone, I could accept that they're capable of being a vehicle for consciousness to experience this 3-D reality.

[fauxster]

Brain Chip Coming Soon For The Sheeple